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[meghatronic]

Last time I looked we were a membe state of the UN.

So what's your beef?

 

[arknor]

ah do they have oil or did they bomb a britain-usa flight p ?

it could turn into another liberia and we still wouldnt step in



i dont disagree with what we are doing in libya but i do think that its rather 'wrong' to be helping there but ignoring the rest of africa

it was probably iran who bombed the lockerbie flight.

libya were told admit it or face un sanctions so pretty much blackmailed, the bombs timer isnt consistent with an explosion as it was heated to 4,000 degress which aparently wasnt possible for the explosion to get so hot. (a lot of people think the cia planted the evidence)

some ex cia guy claims iran did it

ONE of the CIA's leading Lockerbie bomb investigators has come forward with compelling evidence that Libya was not behind the downing of PanAm 103 which killed 270 people. Robert Baer, a retired senior CIA agent, offered to meet the defence team leading the appeal of Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, who was convicted last year of the bombing. However, his offer was not accepted and the new evidence never raised in court.

The new evidence, according to Baer, shows Iran masterminded and funded the bombing; implicates the Palestinian terrorist unit, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC), as the group behind the plot; and reveals that just two days after the December 21 1988 bombing the PFLP-GC received $11 million (£7.6m), paid into a Swiss bank account by Iran.

 

[Tefal]

Exactly if you throw large amounts of high explosive around your bound to hit a few things you didn't mean to. Recent wars show that despite all our 'smart' weapons we still kill plenty of civillians the US figures for Afghanistan are shocking and we wonder why half the world hates us?

Do you hate Russia?

 

[Cosimo]

Last time I looked we were a membe state of the UN.

Yes and?

 

[arknor]

the coalition has bombed the rebels.

"Some of Gaddafi's forces sneaked in among the rebels and fired anti-aircraft guns in the air," he said.

"After that the Nato forces came and bombed them."

lol ingenious but i bet really they fired their guns in celebration into the sky

 

[Danthus]

So what's your beef?

Yes and?

When Cameron talks about the humanatarian need for action what is the criteria for involvement?

 

[RDM]

When Cameron talks about the humanatarian need for action what is the criteria for involvement?

But the point is that the UN is already involved in Cote de Ivorie, it wasn't involved in Libya.

 

[coltpython3]

it was probably iran who bombed the lockerbie flight.

libya were told admit it or face un sanctions so pretty much blackmailed, the bombs timer isnt consistent with an explosion as it was heated to 4,000 degress which aparently wasnt possible for the explosion to get so hot. (a lot of people think the cia planted the evidence)

some ex cia guy claims iran did it

wow. and you actually believe some "ex cia guy" ? any reason to pin anything on iran lol

 

[Danthus]

Why not, it isn't the first time the blame has been put on Iran.

 

[arknor]

wow. and you actually believe some "ex cia guy" ? any reason to pin anything on iran lol

you relaise he came forward one year after the bombing? this was what 15 years ago?

its not like hes just came out of the woodwood now libya is under attack, go read up on the lockerbie bombings iran has always been suspected to be the people really behind it

 

[ColdAsIce]

wow the Rebels are such a fail, quite funny reading this passage on the bbc website:

"The rebels were on their way to Brega when they fired into the air with an anti-aircraft gun, the BBC's Nick Springate says.

The reason for the gunfire is unclear but it may have been in celebration, our correspondent says.

A coalition plane then opened fire on the convoy, destroying the five vehicles, the rebels said."

 

[do_ron_ron]

wow the Rebels are such a fail, quite funny reading this passage on the bbc website:

"The rebels were on their way to Brega when they fired into the air with an anti-aircraft gun, the BBC's Nick Springate says.

The reason for the gunfire is unclear but it may have been in celebration, our correspondent says.

A coalition plane then opened fire on the convoy, destroying the five vehicles, the rebels said."

Makes the air cover a bit dicey. How do the pilots distinguish, in the few seconds that they have, between rebels firing in the air to celebrate the planes presence or the Govt. troops firing at the plane to shoot it down. Escpecially as they both are using flat bed jeep vehicles.

 

[mmj_uk]

BBC hinting that we need troops on the ground to prevent confusion and more civilian deaths.

We've been here 25yrs ago when we armed the Taliban to fight the Soviets, look how that turned out.

 

[Westyfield2]

Makes the air cover a bit dicey. How do the pilots distinguish, in the few seconds that they have, between rebels firing in the air to celebrate the planes presence or the Govt. troops firing at the plane to shoot it down. Escpecially as they both are using flat bed jeep vehicles.

The rebels are told not to shoot in the air?

 

[arknor]

BBC hinting that we need troops on the ground to prevent confusion and more civilian deaths.

We've been here 25yrs ago when we armed the Taliban to fight the Soviets, look how that turned out.

its all a lot of BS, they stop gaddafi when he attacks the rebel held towns.

when the rebels assault the gaddafi held cities they still bomb gaddafi troops...

if the UN was neutral it would attack the rebels when they are trying to turn a civlian area into a warzone and the UN would tell both sides any military units inbetween brega and ajdabiya will be bombed.

instead of trring to stop a war they encourage it

 

[arknor]

so the rebels are beeing trained by american and egyptian special forces, and now they have state of the art heat seeking rockets...

 

[EdGey]

Indeed, also why does everyone think that the UK special forces only consist of the SAS?

So annoying.

Yes it is, but I think its better this way. Because in a sense, the more unknown, and secret they are, the more useful they are.

Let the SAS take all the fame, while other forces operate with no coverage at all.

 

[Robbo]

Indeed, also why does everyone think that the UK special forces only consist of the SAS?

So annoying.

Because the SAS are cool.

 

[rypt]

Indeed, also why does everyone think that the UK special forces only consist of the SAS?

So annoying.

They are the most used on land surely, as SBS only started seeing more land based ops post 9/11

 

[RoboCod]

Makes the air cover a bit dicey. How do the pilots distinguish, in the few seconds that they have, between rebels firing in the air to celebrate the planes presence or the Govt. troops firing at the plane to shoot it down. Escpecially as they both are using flat bed jeep vehicles.

Again, a UAV would be more beneficial in this situation, but hey, they're just used to kill civilians, right?

its all a lot of BS, they stop gaddafi when he attacks the rebel held towns.

when the rebels assault the gaddafi held cities they still bomb gaddafi troops...

if the UN was neutral it would attack the rebels when they are trying to turn a civlian area into a warzone and the UN would tell both sides any military units inbetween brega and ajdabiya will be bombed.

instead of trring to stop a war they encourage it

You're being really naive about the whole situation aren't you?