Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)

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MadMossy said:
The only winners in this entire escapade are the family of GF who have been given a life changing amount of money, who ever said crime doesn't pay.
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Tell me how what price would you sell a member of your families life for? Because that is what you are suggesting here, that they have traded his life for money and have won in the deal. You sir have a pretty twisted mind.
 
VincentHanna said:
Youtubers...Why do people constantly post Youtubers opinions?

"But he was a cop in Arizona!"

Great, he also makes loads of money selling merch and playing to his conservative subscribers.
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Exactly this. Fair play to the guy, I bet he's creaming it in telling that crowd what they want to hear.

Funny that I mentioned I'd listening to a podcast with two former prosecutors, one that was the head of the prestigious SDNY and the other who has just been nominated to run the DEA, so you assume they know their stuff. When I posted in here that they said the prosecution had made a great case I just got told they had an agenda, those same people are posting videos from a youtuber because it backs their narrative. This thread is hilarious. The dude is guilty as sin, they just don't want to see it.
 
To be a fly on the wall in that Jury room, I can't understand any kind of Murder charge but am also not entirely versed in US law, Manslaughter I could understand from a UK perspective.
 
Schlong&Stable said:
If your family was druggy criminal with a dodgy ticker, you might feel different. I'd certainly take the cash if he was my kin.
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Oh I'm sure no member of your family have never broken a law in their lives right? No one has struggled with an addiction to drink or drugs, they are all angels. I've had friends who have struggled with both, I've had friends who've crossed the law. I wouldn't sell any of their lives in for cash. Says more about you than me that you would.
 
esoteric said:
To be a fly on the wall in that Jury room, I can't understand any kind of Murder charge but am also not entirely versed in US law, Manslaughter I could understand from a UK perspective.
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That's what he was effectively charged and convicted of. It's just called felony murder, or second degree murder in the states.
 
rubberduck said:
It doesn't seem like the jury would have deliberated the evidence to any great extent. Ultimately the world had already found Chauvin guilty of murdering GF and the trial was politicised by the media to such an extent that the chance of a 'fair' trial for Chauvin was basically zero. Having listened to a large portion of the evidence it is a stretch to say he is guilty of the murder charges, but anything less would have lead to uproar. Same with the appeal - everyone knows that any success in appealing the decision will be spun as institutionalised racism.

I honestly could not think of a better example where receiving a 'fair' trial is basically impossible.
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If you're murdered before having the opportunity to defend youself in court, receiving a 'fair' trial is litteraly impossible.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Oh I'm sure no member of your family have never broken a law in their lives right? No one has struggled with an addiction to drink or drugs, they are all angels. I've had friends who have struggled with both, I've had friends who've crossed the law. I wouldn't sell any of their lives in for cash. Says more about you than me that you would.
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it's crazy that to some posters because he took drugs he deserved his fate.
 
Ahleckz said:
No, but I suspect those that supported the findings of the report - that is, there is no institutional racism, fully back that report and I’ve seen posts stating that we must accept it. Whereas when a white police officer has been found guilty of murdering a black person then they think that is wrong and it must be overturned.
I find it funny that people state we must accept the findings of one report which suit their narrative whilst also stating that a another finding is wrong which goes against their narrative.

I also believe there are a large number of racists on this board.
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I read the recent report and thought it was good.

I also think Chauvin was guilty of manslaughter (or the US equivalent). His actions were reckless, to say the least.

I think a lot of the rage here comes from the US charge being titled "murder", which has a different connotation in English law.
 
Junglist said:
it's crazy that to some posters because he took drugs he deserved his fate.
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Thats not what people are saying.

People are claiming he was only cuffed because he handed over a fake 20. Truth is he was a danger to himself and others and had to be taken in.

Had he complied then he wouldn't have died... although he might have anyway due to an overdose.
 
I wonder what the judge is thinking now - lots of pressure on him now that they've convicted on the highest charge too... if he's seen as "too soft" with the sentencing then he becomes a hated figure.... expectations are going to be for the max sentence even if, ordinarily, such a case much not warrant it. Will be interesting to see - as will any appeal + presumably the longer the sentence the more likely the sentence is going to be successfully bargained down in any appeal (if not some attempt at actually overturning a conviction or two).

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pallys said:
Gf wasn't on trial.
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He would've been if he was alive, that's the real irony.
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For passing a counterfeit note ?
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For that + being behind the wheel when high AF + possession + resisting arrest. Note his friend who was in the car is currently facing various other unrelated charges too. Floyd has plenty of history with the police.

They pretty much had to arrest him, not just because of the note (that was the reason for the initial call). the was around the amount of force used, I don't think the initial part of the arrest was the issue here, it was Chauvin carrying on with the knee and the inaction by him when Floyd lost consciousness.
 
Schlong&Stable said:
If your family was druggy criminal with a dodgy ticker, you might feel different. I'd certainly take the cash if he was my kin.
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Yup, some of them hadn't seen him for years, at least one of his cousins didn't even know she was related to him until after he died.

Despite the pay out by the city council, to the tune of 8 figures, there is still an open 7 figure go-fund-me campaign too.
 
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