Didn't get enough caps/Got too many caps You decide

The Lisbon Lions, all of them.

All of them Scottish, win the European Cup, get to the final again 2 years later, applauded around Europe for their style of play, 9 domestic titles in a row and a ridiculously pitiful amount of caps between them all.

Worst is Jimmy Johnstone who has something like 23 caps IIRC.
 
Chong Warrior said:
Gary Mabbutt - 16 caps

The guy's a legend at WHL, how he didn't win more caps I don't know. One of the best CB's ever to play for us that's for sure.


I agree. He was a great player.

Steve McMahon is another player who didn't get enough England caps.

And as already mentioned, Carlton Palmer....enough said. Apart maybe from Paul Parker.
 
Youstolemyname said:
I agree. He was a great player.

Steve McMahon is another player who didn't get enough England caps.

And as already mentioned, Carlton Palmer....enough said. Apart maybe from Paul Parker.

Pebble Head McMahon, More caps. Something does not sound quite right there. He was one of them kind of players who used to like to give the verbals and the odd snide kick behind the refs back. Soon as he came up against a half decent footballer who was hard he always disappeared from the game.

Now one from the Liverpool team of yesteryear was Tommy Smith. Only one England cap. Now according to my old man, Tommy Smith was a right hard ******* but he could play ball alright. Good solid defender
 
Not Enough:
Le Tissier
Bruce
Pallister
Cole
Zola
Cudicini
Fowler

Too Many:
Jenas
Ricketts
Richardson

Those are off the top of my head, but there are so many really.
 
Loki said:
Other players who had their chance time and time again but never really took it include, Andy Cole, Robbie Fowler, Matt Le Tiss

Had a chance time and time again? Le Tissier? Are you kidding me? Fowler didn't even get enough chances but that was only because Shearer and Sheringham were the best options.
 
^ Good call. He played 43 games scoring only 5 goals. His record for Liverpool wasn't any better. Good example of a player only getting into the England team because of the club he played for.
 
atpbx said:
No one has mentioned Emile Heskey yet from what i can see?

Surely memories are not that short?
Of course, which leads us nicely to Stan Collymore who somehow managed to get 3 :)
 
Alan Hansen - 26 caps
Rob Jones - Just 8 caps (though injuries played there part)

Both should have got far more.

Almost forgot Fowler - Just 26. Like other players mentioned he came around while Shearer was about and then Owen, coupled with injuries cost him.
NokkonWud said:
Too Many:
Jenas
Ricketts
Richardson
Couldn't be more true, where is he now?
 
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Crazy Phil Neville, how he has got that many caps belies comprehension, must have witnessed something between Sven and Coco McClown ;)

Downing - oh no, never really seen him beat anybody for pace and hasn't got the delivery of Beckham to get him out of trouble.

Heskey = Donkey, never should have been picked.

Jenas - I know now why his name rhymes with P***s. He is terrible.

Le Tissier should have won more caps.

How many did Hoddle win? He appeared to have so much time on the ball whenever he played.
 
Collymore should have got more than 3 caps. He was awesome for Forest and Liverpool but then sadly form dropped and the media didn't exactly take to him.
 
JohnnyG said:
:eek: He was a great 'keeper, one of my heroes.
He would've had loads more if not for Banks & Shilton, unless you mean he didn't get enough?:)

the 1970 FIFA World Cup quarter-final against West Germany in Mexico, when he was thrust into the starting line-up as a late replacement for Banks, who was suffering from food poisoning. During the match England let slip a 2-0 lead and lost 3-2 after extra time

My dad curses his name and he rarely points the finger at individuals.
 
BaZ87 said:
Couldn't be more true, where is he now?

Micheal Ricketts, had a short term contract with Preston North End, from January to the end of the season. He did alright, nothing special. There was talk of Simmo signing him permanently, but they released him as soon as the season finished. No idea if he's signed for someone else.
 
fullspizz said:
Downing - oh no, never really seen him beat anybody for pace and hasn't got the delivery of Beckham to get him out of trouble.

who else you would you give the "caps" too ?

he does play poor for england mind :(
 
I remember when Phil Neville won his fiftieth cap - he was the name that sprung immediately to mind. Following on from that, anyone remember those halycon days when you could make infinite subs and in some friendly (vs South Africa I think) England had FOUR captains, including PHIL PHLIPPING NEVILLE and David James iirc?

Dunno how many caps Geoff Thomas got but it was too many whatever it was.

As for who missed out, MLT is definitely one. Little anecdote for you. Glenn Hoddle picked him for the Ireland game, you know, the one that got abandoned cos of the hooligans. Picked as in, in the first XI. Then the next game, he wasn't even in the squad! Work that one out. Rumour has it, Hoddle couldn't handle the fact that God and Gascoigne had more natural skill and flair than him and used to show him up in training (apparently Hoddle's idea of a training session was him strutting his stuff trying to prove he still had it). Anyway maybe his attitude and unfashionable club let him down, but in terms of pure talent, MLT is one of the best english players of the 90s.

On the face of it, Ian Wright got a fair amount of caps, 31. But more than half of those were sub appearances, so his return of 9 goals isn't that bad. Back in those days subs were less plentiful and used towards the end of games, so him and Fowler (another overlooked one) used to get literally 10mins at the end of the match.

David Seaman should have got more caps, but for some reason he used to get rotated with Chris Woods. Heck, in the early 90s England could have done a lot worse than picking the Arsenal back 4+keeper as a job lot. You wouldn't get San Marino scoring after 8 seconds then, no sir-ee. Not necessarily the 4 most talented defenders in the country, but in terms of understanding, playing as a unit, offside trap etc you wouldn't get much better.

Anyway, next time you are feeling down, take a deep breath and say this outloud to yourself:

"Phil Neville, England captain".
Guarenteed to have you in stitches.
 
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