Diet Advice

Wardie said:
There's a difference between naturally occuring sugars and artificial ones..

Cereals aren't great, end of.
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Fair enough, I'm still living.

Problem is a lot of people speak from the perspective of weight gaining along with training (Not you personally Wardie).
 
Delvis said:
Problem is a lot of people speak from the perspective of weight gaining along with training (Not you personally Wardie).
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I'm speaking from the perspective of a nutritionalist brought into advise employees on how diet can help them remain healthy and reduce stress in a sedentiary office environment.

Cereals aren't good. They won't kill you or do you any great harm, but there are much, much healthier alternatives and you are better off starting the day as you mean to go on.
 
I would really say that the reason he isn't losing weight doesnt have all that much to do with whether he is having brown/white bread or processed carbs in cereals etc. I really expect he is eating/drinking more calories than he thinks. However much you go along with the idea of our bodies "starvation mode" which I think is often used to justify a lot of crap talked. I don't believe that your bodies calorific requirement will be halved. If you are genuinely eating 1000kcal a day then you will lose weight.
 
He isn't eating more calories that he uses, he's hardly eating anything.

He isn't eating enough, therefore his body is going to hold onto everything it can, it's a basic survival mechanism.
 
[DOD]Asprilla;12612456 said:
I'm speaking from the perspective of a nutritionalist brought into advise employees on how diet can help them remain healthy and reduce stress in a sedentiary office environment.

Cereals aren't good. They won't kill you or do you any great harm, but there are much, much healthier alternatives and you are better off starting the day as you mean to go on.
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Hence why I said to eat Porridge as well.

Merely said Cerials aren't THAT bad, hell, if you want to put weight on go and have a fry up every morning for all I care! :p

I've always wondered this as well...If you want to lose weight, is it better to eat breakfast? Or atleast something in the morning rather than not bother eating breakfast? Does it not start the body off by using some of the energy produced...if that makes sense
 
Wardie said:
He isn't eating more calories that he uses, he's hardly eating anything.

He isn't eating enough, therefore his body is going to hold onto everything it can, it's a basic survival mechanism.
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Indeed :)

I would have thought it was common sense to eat more than your are burning off in order to put on weight.
 
Delvis said:
I would have thought it was common sense to eat more than your are burning off in order to put on weight.
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Is that sarcastic or?

If he ate more than he uses he will gain weight.

However, eating too little will cause metabolic slow down and force his body to hold onto any fat it can.

Ideally speaking, breakfast should be the biggest meal of the day.
 
Wardie said:
Is that sarcastic or?

If he ate more than he uses he will gain weight.

However, eating too little will cause metabolic slow down and force his body to hold onto any fat it can.

Ideally speaking, breakfast should be the biggest meal of the day.
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Sorry it wasen't sarcastic if it seemed like that...If you want to put on weight...You need to take in more than your burning off surely? That's what I meant :)

But naturally if you under eat then yes, your body holds onto it's resources so to speak...But I don't think a lot of people realise this...I only know this due to one of my family members not eating properly, but not losing weight.
 
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I'm not sure why you're talking about putting on weight though, the original post is to do with losing weight, that's certainly what i'm talking about :)
 
Delvis said:
I've always wondered this as well...If you want to lose weight, is it better to eat breakfast? Or atleast something in the morning rather than not bother eating breakfast? Does it not start the body off by using some of the energy produced...if that makes sense
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Breakfast is vital. You are more likely to put on or retain excess fat if you skip meals.
 
I think you overestimate the bodies ability to hold onto its own weight. If he really is only eating 1000kcal then he will lose weight. The fact that he is not losing weight is far more likely down to the fact that he isn't only taking in 1000kcal. If we were talking a small deficit from what he needs to maintain weight then maybe the body can compensate this for a while, but not when we are talking >1000 kcal a day. It is incredibly common that people underestimate their intake when they are dieting, and I would strongly suggest the OP is doing just that.
 
heeeed said:
I think you overestimate the bodies ability to hold onto its own weight. If he really is only eating 1000kcal then he will lose weight. The fact that he is not losing weight is far more likely down to the fact that he isn't only taking in 1000kcal. If we were talking a small deficit from what he needs to maintain weight then maybe the body can compensate this for a while, but not when we are talking >1000 kcal a day. It is incredibly common that people underestimate their intake when they are dieting, and I would strongly suggest the OP is doing just that.
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With a high calorie deficit the body is more likely to metabolise protein stored in the tissue of the muscles than it is fat. Thus you've less mass to carry fat, less mass to burn fat, and you aren't loosing much more fat anyway.

This high a deficit will also result in a MASSIVE drop in metabolism, meaning he can't utilise fat for energy as efficiently, and will burn less calories. Such a high deficit will also mean that when the OP starts to eat properly again, metabolism will remain low for some time, meaning rapid weight gain when eating a calorie excess, which is easily achieved when the body has been starved, muscle mass has been reduced and calorie deficit has been both high and prolonged for an extensive period of time.

Stipulated healthy weight loss for the non-obese is 1-2lbs a week dependant on body type. For most people, any more than this is less trouble than its worth.

Ant :cool:
 
To be honest, I am fairly sure I am pretty bang on my 1000kcal target - I anally listed all the ingrediants for my meals, added them up etc. much to my girlfriends amusement.

However, if I am aiming too low - What would be a better target to try and hit? I also just signed up to the local gym, so ill be starting there next week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday is my plan, and something I used to do back in my home town).
 
Oh I agree that a 1000kcal diet would lose muscle mass and is not healthy, but it would also lose weight which he states it isn't. In no way am I suggesting that a 1000kcal diet is a good healthy way to try lose weight. I am trying to make the point that he may well not really be eating that little, because he would lose weight if he was. I see this problem of underestimating what someone consumes very commonly at work, and I have often found if someone can be brutally honest with themselves and very carefully count up their intake they will surprise themselves.
 
MotherMayI said:
To be honest, I am fairly sure I am pretty bang on my 1000kcal target - I anally listed all the ingrediants for my meals, added them up etc. much to my girlfriends amusement.

However, if I am aiming too low - What would be a better target to try and hit? I also just signed up to the local gym, so ill be starting there next week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday is my plan, and something I used to do back in my home town).
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How much Tea / coffee do you have?

Along with anything else, squash, coke / soda etc.
 
2 cups of coffee day, roughly - it ranges from 0 - 3. Squash I will have about 5 cups a day of.

What is a healthy daily intake of kcal to aim for, and still lose weight?
 
It will depend on your size and how much physical activity you do both day to day work and added exercise, but it's likely about 1500-2000kcal is a more reasonable amount to aim for, which is why 1000kcal seems so low.
 
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