Dishwasher caught fire!!

JBuk said:
Women tend to smoulder for a long time before fully igniting
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Halfmad said:
So when is she opening the dishwasher and finishing off those mugs?
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Nanoman said:
Looks like she has a lot of cleaning to do now!
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Just read the comments out to her, she laughed (eventually)!

Thanks for all the messages.

Going to ring the insurers in the morning will have to see what they say.
The worktop is burnt where is was above the dishwasher and a couple of the cupboard doors have had the paint bubbled on them.
Dunno if they'll be able to fix them or it's new kitchen time.
 
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It's like your microwave is doing a sly wink/raised eyebrow.
 
Jesus H Christ, well done on getting the F Brigade to sort it out. Doesn't look like it did too much damage...I was expecting a lot worse (from the pics) for burning for 10 minutes!

I'm really suprised about them being the most likely appliance to catch fire! Thanks for the heads up on their saftey (or lack there of) record.
 
Attended many incidents of a similar nature. As Halfmad said, folks - don't risk it. Never leave a dishwasher, tumble drier or washing machine on overnight or during the day when there is no one in the home. We see this all the time in the fire service. There is a national database that gets added to every week with details of the manufacturers of the appliances that catch fire so we can attempt to establish if there is any sort of "pattern" to it.

@snowdog - If you have no smoke detectors at the moment get some ASAP m8. Lift the phone to your local fire station and request a home fire risk assessment/safety check. We will come out to visit you at a time that suits and give you advice on anything you ask about as well as fit free of charge, smoke detectors where required.

*EDIT* - Just realised your location, not sure if the Dutch FRS have a similar thing going regarding home safety checks, might be worth asking about.
 
Draeger said:
Attended many incidents of a similar nature. As Halfmad said, folks - don't risk it. Never leave a dishwasher, tumble drier or washing machine on overnight or during the day when there is no one in the home. We see this all the time in the fire service. There is a national database that gets added to every week with details of the manufacturers of the appliances that catch fire so we can attempt to establish if there is any sort of "pattern" to it.
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This was a Hotpoint (very HOT in the end!), do you know which are the more "safer" brands? (was going to get a Bosch to replace it).
 
This happened to us about 10 years ago. We even got in the paper as we (the kids) were camping out in the back garden the night it happened. We smealt smoke and realised it was coming from the kitchen, got the parents up and the fire brigade came round and sorted it out.

Parents always make sure it's turned off at night now...

We had a professional cleaning firm come and clean up the entirety of downstairs (smoke) so you may get that from the insurers. We had a fire door between downstairs and the hall but no smoke alarm on the kitchen side so instead of being allerted to it pretty quick it smoldered for a while.
 
Draeger said:
@snowdog - If you have no smoke detectors at the moment get some ASAP m8. Lift the phone to your local fire station and request a home fire risk assessment/safety check. We will come out to visit you at a time that suits and give you advice on anything you ask about as well as fit free of charge, smoke detectors where required.

*EDIT* - Just realised your location, not sure if the Dutch FRS have a similar thing going regarding home safety checks, might be worth asking about.
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My house IS a fire hazard I'm nearly 99% sure, but I can't do much but buy a couple of smoke detectors to fix it, my parents( especially my dad) isn't an orderly person, the house is a mess, at least 40 devices plugged in to power/standby all the time (if you come down to the living room in the dark it's kind of like a funfair from all the standby lights and devices), loads of (ages old) cabling and even one faulty wall plug ( the casing broke), I was going to buy a couple and hang up one in the kitchen and one in the staircase but I guess I didn't come around to do it, I will though seeing they're only a fiver... He even doesn't turn off things like AV receivers, always leaves them on.
 
snowdog said:
My house IS a fire hazard I'm nearly 99% sure, but I can't do much but buy a couple of smoke detectors to fix it, my parents( especially my dad) isn't an orderly person, the house is a mess, at least 40 devices plugged in to power/standby all the time (if you come down to the living room in the dark it's kind of like a funfair from all the standby lights and devices), loads of (ages old) cabling and even one faulty wall plug ( the casing broke), I was going to buy a couple and hang up one in the kitchen and one in the staircase but I guess I didn't come around to do it, I will though seeing they're only a fiver... He even doesn't turn off things like AV receivers, always leaves them on.
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Hmmm. At the very least get smoke detectors m8. They may well save you and your family at some point. Overloading of sockets is something lots of people do with scant disregard to the consequences as it seems such an innocuous thing to do but can be a damn sight more dangerous than you might think.

nst68 said:
This was a Hotpoint (very HOT in the end!), do you know which are the more "safer" brands? (was going to get a Bosch to replace it).
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I'm not sure off hand what the stats say, I'd need to check when I am back at work later this week.
 
Draeger said:
Overloading of sockets is something lots of people do with scant disregard to the consequences as it seems such an innocuous thing to do but can be a damn sight more dangerous than you might think.
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Errrrr..... Not unless your house has been wired by a cowboy!
All cables in a correctly wired house are protected by fuse's,MCB's,RCBO's..etc these make it impossible for the cables to draw more current then the CSA of the cable can safely carry!!
An overloaded ring final will simply cause either a fuse to blow or a breaker to trip.

What is far more dangerous and a big fire risk that many people don't know about is running high current devices on coiled up extension leads!! Due to the coil it induces it's own emf (eddy currents) into the cable which in a worse case scenario means that the fuse in the plug is no longer sufficient to prevent the cable from heating up to a point of causing a fire :eek:
Many extensions now have thermal cut-out devices built in to prevent this safety hazard, if yours doesn't have this then I suggest unwinding it fully when using high current devices in it.
 
When you mention fire brigade my first thought was `how bad could it be, it has water in it`. Then i saw the photos :eek:

Ive never thought that a dishwasher could do that, not sure i want to use it overnight again :(

Hope you get it all sorted through insurance before xmas!
 
snowdog said:
My house IS a fire hazard I'm nearly 99% sure, but I can't do much but buy a couple of smoke detectors to fix it, my parents( especially my dad) isn't an orderly person, the house is a mess, at least 40 devices plugged in to power/standby all the time (if you come down to the living room in the dark it's kind of like a funfair from all the standby lights and devices), loads of (ages old) cabling and even one faulty wall plug ( the casing broke), I was going to buy a couple and hang up one in the kitchen and one in the staircase but I guess I didn't come around to do it, I will though seeing they're only a fiver... He even doesn't turn off things like AV receivers, always leaves them on.
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I was there, wasnt nice and they had no smoke detectors! well they had 4 in a packet in a box.
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Errrrr..... Not unless your house has been wired by a cowboy!
All cables in a correctly wired house are protected by fuse's,MCB's,RCBO's..etc these make it impossible for the cables to draw more current then the CSA of the cable can safely carry!!
An overloaded ring final will simply cause either a fuse to blow or a breaker to trip.
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MCBs can take 1.5-2x the rated current before they trip, and fuses 2x or more. If the cabling is borderline then, particularly with fuses, it can be insufficient protection.

I've personally seen a cable smoulder with no reaction from fuses. Luckily I did spot it and that device went straight in the bin. I suspect it was a damaged cable as a cassette player shouldn't draw anything like enough current.

I run a lot of devices off one plug too. Too many, maybe, but I know the risks and monitor what I use to make sure I never overload.
 
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