No it wasn't - why should it be
Hmm looking back on it I think I was tired and took your post to be taking the p*** out of my mini-rant. In the light of day it doesn't seem that way at all
Sorry.
Well not unless you drive a mobility scooter
Do cyclists have a date with death?
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Well not unless you drive a mobility scooter
Well not unless you drive a mobility scooter
I call it Gerald, and we'll be on Pimp My Ride next Saturday
How come? The ones I seen seem pretty good.
The ones I have seen go up onto the pavement, have flipping bollards in the middle of them and cross roads. Now cars won't be looking for cyclists crossing where pedestrians are meant to cross, they will be concentrating on the traffic along the road they are trying to pull out into. Not only that often there are trees in the cycle lane and add to that awful pavement with nowhere to go to avoid it AND pedestrians walking in it and you begin to understand why I won't use them.
I feel much safer on the road than the pavement.
well if they did have a smoother, less debris, potholes on the pavement and those bloody humps I would consider using it.
Not to say normal road is any better though, however not that many humps on the road.
Still within 10-15miles I don't see the point with a car tbh, and workplaces should encourage commuting by bike with installing a shower changing room.
The other day just filtering through cars on traffic was awesome
all these
fatass people with their 10.2L 4x4 cars going at 1mph just make me sick.
You should get money to start cycling not pay road tax or whatever.
Not to say normal road is any better though, however not that many humps on the road.
Still within 10-15miles I don't see the point with a car tbh, and workplaces should encourage commuting by bike with installing a shower changing room.
The other day just filtering through cars on traffic was awesome
all thesefatass people with their 10.2L 4x4 cars going at 1mph just make me sick.
You should get money to start cycling not pay road tax or whatever.
well if they did have a smoother, less debris, potholes on the pavement and those bloody humps I would consider using it.
Not to say normal road is any better though, however not that many humps on the road.
Still within 10-15miles I don't see the point with a car tbh, and workplaces should encourage commuting by bike with installing a shower changing room.
The other day just filtering through cars on traffic was awesome
fatass people with their 10.2L 4x4 cars going at 1mph just make me sick.
You should get money to start cycling not pay road tax or whatever.
+1 filtering through standstill traffic is the best! Drivers don't realise how dangerous the pavement is and how poorly thought out cycle lanes often are.
At the end of the day we are all (well most of us), cars and cyclists, just trying to get from A to B in the safest possible way, and there will ALWAYS be someone to ruin it for others, be it a motorist or a cyclist. The sooner we all learn to get along the better.
Having commuted to work for the last few years I've seen rather a lot of drivers who act like idiots, as well as quite a few cyclists who I've wanted to give a slap to as well.
Cycle lanes are pretty much as waste of time where I live. Those that are on the extra wide pavements are generally only a few hundred yards long at best before coming to a junction at a side road or similar. Since the side road has priority, the cycle lane becomes about as much use as a penis flavoured lollipop. By the time you've got your momentum sorted and are up to speed, it's time to slow down or stop. In these cases I'll use the road thanks.
The council has also encouraged lane filtering by adding in large 'cycle buffer zones' at the front of traffic light areas allowing a cyclist to be able to filter to the front of the queue. These are great... if it wasn't for 90% of the time I find a bloody car stuck in there, rather than at the great big thick white line behind the zone... When drivers have their windows down I quite often compliment them on their nice looking bike...
Then there's the impatient drivers that really haven't got a clue about how fast a decent cyclist can actually get up to and maintain. I cycle through several 20mph zones which are enforced areas with 'speed cushions' bumps, the type where if you line the car up just right they don't slow you down at all. Several times I've found myself in a situation where at the brow of a steep downhill section a car has gone for an over take. Because of mavity and the fact that I'm not exactly hanging about it's not long before I'm doing 20mph and so the car going for the overtake find themselves level with me rather than going past me. They then panic since they're doing 20mph+ aiming straight at a speed bump which they're not lined up for, or worse an oncoming car. Instead of braking (or heaven forbid actually waiting for an area where it's safe to overtake) they panic, and steer into me, knocking me into the kerb or off the bike. This isn't a fun situation at speed, so these days I've taken to riding defensively and putting myself in a position that forces a car to wait. Yes, I'll add 10 seconds or so to your journey, but it sure beats adding several hours at A&E to mine.
Cycle lanes are pretty much as waste of time where I live. Those that are on the extra wide pavements are generally only a few hundred yards long at best before coming to a junction at a side road or similar. Since the side road has priority, the cycle lane becomes about as much use as a penis flavoured lollipop. By the time you've got your momentum sorted and are up to speed, it's time to slow down or stop. In these cases I'll use the road thanks.
The council has also encouraged lane filtering by adding in large 'cycle buffer zones' at the front of traffic light areas allowing a cyclist to be able to filter to the front of the queue. These are great... if it wasn't for 90% of the time I find a bloody car stuck in there, rather than at the great big thick white line behind the zone... When drivers have their windows down I quite often compliment them on their nice looking bike...
Then there's the impatient drivers that really haven't got a clue about how fast a decent cyclist can actually get up to and maintain. I cycle through several 20mph zones which are enforced areas with 'speed cushions' bumps, the type where if you line the car up just right they don't slow you down at all. Several times I've found myself in a situation where at the brow of a steep downhill section a car has gone for an over take. Because of mavity and the fact that I'm not exactly hanging about it's not long before I'm doing 20mph and so the car going for the overtake find themselves level with me rather than going past me. They then panic since they're doing 20mph+ aiming straight at a speed bump which they're not lined up for, or worse an oncoming car. Instead of braking (or heaven forbid actually waiting for an area where it's safe to overtake) they panic, and steer into me, knocking me into the kerb or off the bike. This isn't a fun situation at speed, so these days I've taken to riding defensively and putting myself in a position that forces a car to wait. Yes, I'll add 10 seconds or so to your journey, but it sure beats adding several hours at A&E to mine.
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I nearly lost my mrs to a cyclist.
She was travelling to work early morning, about 3am (from her mothers) and had to swerve to avoid a cyclist that pulled out of an estate further down the road/ He was not wearing any form of high-vis. Her car went over the central strip of grass, toppled (narrowly avoiding cars coming up the dual carriageway) and landed in a ditch.
He was overheard at the bustop saying how he was "nearly killed the other day" but.. and here's the worst.. he never stopped after the accident.
Thankfully there was a passing off-duty paramedic because she would have likely died
She was travelling to work early morning, about 3am (from her mothers) and had to swerve to avoid a cyclist that pulled out of an estate further down the road/ He was not wearing any form of high-vis. Her car went over the central strip of grass, toppled (narrowly avoiding cars coming up the dual carriageway) and landed in a ditch.
He was overheard at the bustop saying how he was "nearly killed the other day" but.. and here's the worst.. he never stopped after the accident.
Thankfully there was a passing off-duty paramedic because she would have likely died
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I nearly killed a cyclist the other day in similar circumstances:
I was approaching a set of traffic lights on a 40mph dual carriage way. The lights are red, but everyone is in the left lane so I make my way down the right lane. About 20m away the lights change so I accellerate to 40mph. Guy in black, with no lights comes out of the left junction thinking he can get across the road before the stationary traffic makes it away from the lights.......
When he saw me he did the sensible thing and fell over, using his body on the tarmac to slow himself. I stopped when it was convenient, and a bus stop a little further on, but he was gone.
Idiots are idiots; whether they walk, ride or drive they are the same.
I was approaching a set of traffic lights on a 40mph dual carriage way. The lights are red, but everyone is in the left lane so I make my way down the right lane. About 20m away the lights change so I accellerate to 40mph. Guy in black, with no lights comes out of the left junction thinking he can get across the road before the stationary traffic makes it away from the lights.......
When he saw me he did the sensible thing and fell over, using his body on the tarmac to slow himself. I stopped when it was convenient, and a bus stop a little further on, but he was gone.
Idiots are idiots; whether they walk, ride or drive they are the same.
That can get them points and a fine can it not?
Isn't it illegal not to have lights on your bike riding at night? Certainly stupid
I gave the short description before, now here's the full riposte:
Why not? Care to explain why you don't use something that cost a lot of money just to accommodate cyclists in the interests of road safety?
I can appreciate the thing about manhole covers etc - it's not what you need
I'll thank you to keep your libelous opinions to yourself if you don't mind; I'd not give too much more away, lest your opinion precedes you.
Check the cycle lane out:
...it and the adjacent foot path are (combined) as wide as a single lane of the road and they're set up from the road by a reasonably high curb, with a further curb separating the foot path from the cycle path.
There is no sensible reason why a cyclist should choose to ride on a busy bypass road when the cycle path is provided for some considerable distance - all the way from Earl shilton to the roundabout joining the A47 to the A5, and beyond (a distance of, at the very least, 5 miles).
I suspect that there's no convincing the level of intelligence that chooses to ride in the road when facility is provided for riding in a dedicated cycle lane, of the foolishness and ignorance of such a decision and the inconvenience to other road users by presenting an unnecessary hazard (I have already alluded to his lack of balance and erratic riding); and whilst it may seem to you that I used my horn in aggressive vindictiveness to this individuals actions, I would state that I was simply alerting him to my presence on the road, as I was planning to overtake him and did not want him wobbling out into the road as I was beginning my manoeuvre - thereby avoiding scratched paintwork for me, and a free ride under the wheels of my land rover for him - All perfectly appropriate, lawful and (dare I labour the point?) considerate behaviour for one who holds a current driving license and pays both vehicle duty and insurance in order to drive on the roads of britain.
Where others skill and experience and training and common sense are lacking, a good driver makes allowance for such and plans his actions accordingly.
I'm certain it's the reason I have 9+ years ncb and have not been responsible for, or been involved in, a serious accident that could have been avoided due to any action on my part in almost 20 years of road use.
Why not? Care to explain why you don't use something that cost a lot of money just to accommodate cyclists in the interests of road safety?
I can appreciate the thing about manhole covers etc - it's not what you need
I'll thank you to keep your libelous opinions to yourself if you don't mind; I'd not give too much more away, lest your opinion precedes you.
Check the cycle lane out:
...it and the adjacent foot path are (combined) as wide as a single lane of the road and they're set up from the road by a reasonably high curb, with a further curb separating the foot path from the cycle path.
There is no sensible reason why a cyclist should choose to ride on a busy bypass road when the cycle path is provided for some considerable distance - all the way from Earl shilton to the roundabout joining the A47 to the A5, and beyond (a distance of, at the very least, 5 miles).
I suspect that there's no convincing the level of intelligence that chooses to ride in the road when facility is provided for riding in a dedicated cycle lane, of the foolishness and ignorance of such a decision and the inconvenience to other road users by presenting an unnecessary hazard (I have already alluded to his lack of balance and erratic riding); and whilst it may seem to you that I used my horn in aggressive vindictiveness to this individuals actions, I would state that I was simply alerting him to my presence on the road, as I was planning to overtake him and did not want him wobbling out into the road as I was beginning my manoeuvre - thereby avoiding scratched paintwork for me, and a free ride under the wheels of my land rover for him - All perfectly appropriate, lawful and (dare I labour the point?) considerate behaviour for one who holds a current driving license and pays both vehicle duty and insurance in order to drive on the roads of britain.
Where others skill and experience and training and common sense are lacking, a good driver makes allowance for such and plans his actions accordingly.
I'm certain it's the reason I have 9+ years ncb and have not been responsible for, or been involved in, a serious accident that could have been avoided due to any action on my part in almost 20 years of road use.
If someone decides not to use a perfectly good cycle lane for no reason other than stubborness, then they deserve all the abuse they get. But a lot of cycle lanes are unsuitable or indeed are more dangerous than staying out on the road.
In the same way that some junctions and road layout is to bad as to cause accidents.
In the same way that some junctions and road layout is to bad as to cause accidents.
Libel - 'defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures'
He's called me a retard and inferred I'm an idiot, in writing on a public forum, which apart from being untrue, he cannot possibly say for sure, because he has no personal knowledge of me. So, yes; Libel.
Me saying what's quoted is not some sort of legal threat however, more a turn of phrase with a gentle barb about giving too much of ones preconceptions away for public scrutiny and judgement. A little better than responding with a mere ;rolleyes; smiley, I thought.
Anyway, enough of all that
He's called me a retard and inferred I'm an idiot, in writing on a public forum, which apart from being untrue, he cannot possibly say for sure, because he has no personal knowledge of me. So, yes; Libel.
Me saying what's quoted is not some sort of legal threat however, more a turn of phrase with a gentle barb about giving too much of ones preconceptions away for public scrutiny and judgement. A little better than responding with a mere ;rolleyes; smiley, I thought.
Anyway, enough of all that
Im sorry but sounding your horn at a cyclist can be extremely dangerous. What you have to remember is that it is so much louder to the cyclist than someone that is in a car. The consequences of startling a cyclist is so much worse that startling a driver. For one if you startle a cyclist there is more chance they could swerve or wobble and cause a serious accident.
Ok I apologise for calling you a retard. My point was this: the cyclist would not have taken it as helpful in the same way a motorist won't take a cyclist swearing at them as helpful even if they almost hit the cyclist.
In the situation you describe it would certainly seem more sensible, especially, if as it appears the cyclist is not that experienced, to use the pavement, however on the roads I use (south and central london) this is never the case.
My reason for not using most cycle lanes is as I posted earlier:
And the ones on the road often have debris in them and manhole covers.
In the situation you describe it would certainly seem more sensible, especially, if as it appears the cyclist is not that experienced, to use the pavement, however on the roads I use (south and central london) this is never the case.
My reason for not using most cycle lanes is as I posted earlier:
And the ones on the road often have debris in them and manhole covers.