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Do I not get PCI 3 if I put a SB chip in a Z77 board?

oh my, your proof is astonishing. sorry, i totally didnt realise you quoting 2 cards running 3 1080p monitors was the same as 4 cards.
and the second one, again, real obvious proof the gaps are HUGE.
they are not huge, and probably wouldnt be noticable on a 2 card setup with 3 monitors.
fact is, the IB is the only way to get PCI-e 3.0, no one has concrete pricing for it, so whether its worth waiting for no one knows. but unless you are planning on getting 4 cards or some crazy high res monitors, then i cant say claiming the bottleneck is gunna be HUGE is an accurate statement, and none of your 'proof' are relevent or show this to be true.
 
Are you not reading the graphics correctly?

32>53, 62% increase
69>97, 41% increase
52>78, 50% increase
40>61, 51% increase
79>108, 36% increase
56>85, 52% increase

'Unless you plan on getting 4 cards'... I assume this is a mistake because you did not read the 2nd graph correctly. If you did, you should mean 'Unless you plan on getting 2 cards'. Plus, I have a single 2560*1440 screen and I'm expanding on this soon.

Holy **** you must not be able to read

> PCI 3 is incredibly important for multi monitor multi GPU setups. I have a U2711 which I'm expanding, when I do, I will need to go from a single 680 to 680 SLI. When this happens, PCI 2 would be a huge bottleneck.

and then you respond

> unless you plan on getting 4 (you should mean 2) cards or some crazy high res monitors, then i cant say claiming the bottleneck is gunna be HUGE is an accurate statement.

When did you read I was NOT getting a multi monitor setup and that I was NOT getting 680 SLI?
 
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Weren't those tests done on x79 systems with multiple PCI-e x16's?

Not sure it's 100% representative of what you'll see if you're running on z77 with 1x16 and 1x8. That might be another "huge" bottleneck as well.
 
Weren't those tests done on x79 systems with multiple PCI-e x16's?

Not sure it's 100% representative of what you'll see if you're running on z77 with 1x16 and 1x8. That might be another "huge" bottleneck as well.

thats not important as he has read it somewhere so it has to be true.
trust me, not worth it he has in his head that PCI-e 3.0 is going to make his pc superfast and PCI-e 2.0 will run like a dog.
 
4 way SLI? Not exactly a representative benchmark.

The second graph is better and yes, it's still not huge. No-one disputing there's a bottleneck but come on - rein in the rhetoric.

I'd be interested in the background in the second benchmark. How was the benchmark done? Tough to get an identical Multiplayer benchmark isn't it? Can't rule out a degree of error...
 
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4 way SLI? Not exactly a representative benchmark.

The second graph is better and yes, it's still not huge. No-one disputing there's probably a bottleneck but come on - rein in the rhetoric.

I will also admit the 2nd graph is more represntative of what I will be experiencing, but:

32>53, 62% increase
69>97, 41% increase
52>78, 50% increase
40>61, 51% increase
79>108, 36% increase
56>85, 52% increase

How is that not huge?
 
thats not important as he has read it somewhere so it has to be true.
trust me, not worth it he has in his head that PCI-e 3.0 is going to make his pc superfast and PCI-e 2.0 will run like a dog.

If you would like to show me any benches that prove me otherwise I would gladly read them and consider them against my intention of purchasing a 3570k.

Please, show me those benches.
 
I will also admit the 2nd graph is more represntative of what I will be experiencing, but:

32>53, 62% increase
69>97, 41% increase
52>78, 50% increase
40>61, 51% increase
79>108, 36% increase
56>85, 52% increase

How is that not huge?

BECAUSE ON A Z77 MOBO YOU WILL NOT GET 16X 16X SLI :rolleyes: and even if there was, the one in your sig DOES NOT
 
BECAUSE ON A Z77 MOBO YOU WILL NOT GET 16X 16X SLI :rolleyes:

It will x16 x8 right? Will this will make the difference insignificant? I'd like to see some benches before I consider the difference insignificant.

Unless going from x16 x16 to x16 x8 will reduce those % figures by 10-20%, it'd still be a huge increase for me.
 
Taking aside the 4way numbers. Why the big difference between runs? And it's only in one game.

I think more data is needed before a solid conclusion can be drawn.
 
I will also admit the 2nd graph is more represntative of what I will be experiencing, but:

32>53, 62% increase
69>97, 41% increase
52>78, 50% increase
40>61, 51% increase
79>108, 36% increase
56>85, 52% increase

How is that not huge?

Edited my post - re-read. I don't trust the graph without a source and benchmark methodology. I'm prepared to admit I'm wrong with proper sourcing.
 
It will x16 x8 right? Will this will make the difference insignificant? I'd like to see some benches before I consider the difference insignificant.

Unless going from x16 x16 to x16 x8 will reduce those % figures by 10-20%, it'd still be a huge increase for me.

Gigabyte said:
2.1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x8 (PCIEX8)
* The PCIEX8 slot shares bandwidth with the PCIEX16 slot. When the PCIEX8 slot is populated, the PCIEX16 slot will operate at up to x8 mode.

mobo quoted in your sig spec ;) so X8 X8 so yes, there will be a difference from the graphs you are quoting
 
Key to this is the source, without that the graphs are worthless. This is one case where a decent scientific method is required.

1st one, ask Vega about his methodoly.

2nd one, go here to found out, the board used for that bench was the Asus P8 Z77 WS

Yes but clarifying a point helps sometimes so it's best to do it just incase.

thanks for being so considerate.
 
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