Do NOT buy from G2Play!

snowdog said:
Isn't that illegal ? The games may be meant for different markets but surely a free market economy means you can buy goods from wherever you like ? It's not illegal buying cheap apple stuff in the US or cheap Toys from China is it ? This is exactly steam abusing it's power, a cd key can be transferred over the internet for free... snip ...
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I believe this is EXACTLY whats rubbing soo many people the wrong way.

Basically what steam are saying is buy from them or GTFO.

It'll be the standard Key stealing, Game Copying, Piracy loving,raping and pillaging large crime syndicate. Remember, buying CD Keys from online stores hurts the gaming industry and funds drug cartels!

Well thats what some of these companies want us to believe :p
 
Totally agree with snowdog on this. Bit of a total over-reaction from the OP. Instead of simply sorting it with G2play, who from personal experience and from this and other sites have no issues refunding when things go wrong.

Its free market gone crazy. With any other product there is nothing to stop you from sourcing it cheaper from around the world, yet with games if steam finds out you have done they can revoke your key!? Absolutely crazy.

Also, G2play WILL either refund you or issue you with another key. Don't panic, they've been around for quite a while and will resolve this.
 
Gimpymoo said:
Fair enough.

In this region/Territory maybe, does not mean copies were not available in regions with high piracey rates.
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At the time the only place you could get a key was from the developer direct or from Direct2Drive, it was a digital only release. This makes me wary of them more than any of the other stuff, they really couldn't have gotten valid keys from anywhere.
 
Sleepery said:
At the time the only place you could get a key was from the developer direct or from Direct2Drive, it was a digital only release. This makes me wary of them more than any of the other stuff, they really couldn't have gotten valid keys from anywhere.
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BUt noooooo they dont steel keys they buy dem from poor countrees!!!!! :(
 
Sleepery said:
At the time the only place you could get a key was from the developer direct or from Direct2Drive, it was a digital only release. This makes me wary of them more than any of the other stuff, they really couldn't have gotten valid keys from anywhere.
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Exactly, so where did they "STEAL" these keys from?

Someone break into Direct2Drives servers under moonlight and Steal all their keys?

Interesting how they never said HOW they were stolen?

How do you STEAL WORKING keys for a digital only game?

Kenai said:
BUt noooooo they dont steel keys they buy dem from poor countrees!!!!! :(
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Sorry, my sarcasm radar must be broke. I cant tell if that was serious or not, sorry :(
 
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Technically from this issue, (even though my steam key is absolutely fine) I could lie and say it isn't working (like everyone elses) and get my money back while still keeping a fully working game. ;)
 
Gimpymoo said:
Exactly, so where did they "STEAL" these keys from?

Someone break into Direct2Drives servers under moonlight and Steal all their keys?

Interesting how they never said HOW they were stolen?
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Well the obvious answer is to use a keygen. They're not exactly rare. Seriously, where would they get working keys otherwise? Where do you think they came from, given that there were only two legit sources, and neither were likely to have anything to do with G2Play?
 
Secret_Window said:
Technically from this issue, (even though my steam key is absolutely fine) I could lie and say it isn't working (like everyone elses) and get my money back while still keeping a fully working game. ;)
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Doesn't sound like a bad idea to be honest mate!

I emailed them shortley before starting this topic and have still had no reply.

Half their emails are gmail accounts and the other half are @g2play.net but forward onto gmail, so they obviously just have email forwarders and no emails!
 
From what Ive read regarding this it sounds more like a crackdown by Activision rather than Steam. Loads of people posting in the thread on steam have bought nearly theyre entire Steam games list through sites like g2play without problem. As for g2play Ive used them once with no complaint and they seem to be pretty good at refunding customers when things do go wrong.
 
Even tho g2play themselves may not intentionally be selling illegal keys as such - their methods for obtaining keys in the first place leaves them open to abuse.

Moral of the story - if your gonna be cheap - have your wits about you or don't complain when an obviously potential dodgy source burns you...
 
Rroff said:
Moral of the story - if your gonna be cheap - have your wits about you or don't complain when an obviously potential dodgy source burns you...
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The point here is it's not the "potential dodgy source" burning people it appears to be steam/activision throwing their toys outta the pram because customers refuse to pay the retarded price on steam and are locating a cheaper legitimate key/copy of the game elsewhere where its cheaper.
 
Rroff said:
Even tho g2play themselves may not intentionally be selling illegal keys as such - their methods for obtaining keys in the first place leaves them open to abuse.

Moral of the story - if your gonna be cheap - have your wits about you or don't complain when an obviously potential dodgy source burns you...
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Where do they get the keys? Is it known?
 
Biohazard said:
Where do they get the keys? Is it known?
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About G2PLAY said:
Geniune CD Keys: All picked up from major game distributors from their original retail boxes and scanned up into our database. No risk now, no risk later!

Playing the good games is not a luxury: Our keys are original. As such we cannot give them for free but we can pass them at very decent prices. Why to overpay in your local store when you can get the game NOW and much CHEAPER?!

Moneyback guarantee: If your CD key is not working you are entitled to a prompt refund or exchange - whichever you prefer. You will not find this guaratee anywhere else.

34 supported currencies: All games available in your local currency! No hidden costs! No extra charges! No expensive exchange rates! All exchange rates imported on daily basis from the European Central Bank.

Instant delivery: All games delivered instantly to your mail box and viewable in your orders history at any time.

Easy payments: Payments by PayPal, Major Credit / Debet Cards, Moneybookers and bank account transfer.

More discounts for frequent shoppers: Once you buy from G2PLAY you never search for diffirent website. Our Premium Account holders (and you can become one at any time) enjoy further discounts and rewards from G2PLAY.
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:)
 
The thing with this key revoking is that Valve have had no issue in the past with just banning keys for being the wrong region and saying so, so if these keys are really just coming from another region, surely Valve would be replying with 'your key isnt valid for your region' not 'you bought from an unauthorised seller'? So there must be something different about G2Play keys that allows Valve to identify them as such, rather than just give the usual wrong region response as it would do if you imported a copy.
 
Sleepery said:
Well the obvious answer is to use a keygen. They're not exactly rare. Seriously, where would they get working keys otherwise? Where do you think they came from, given that there were only two legit sources, and neither were likely to have anything to do with G2Play?
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The odds of a keygen creating a valid key that you can actually activate on Steam or in this case the Fallen Earth site are absolutely ridiculously small. I don't know the exact number of characters in the Fallen Earth key but the odds are usually in the one in billion range. Now it wouldn't be a miracle if a shop like G2Play could manage to create one working key in say a month (remember, they would have to check EVERY key on the Fallen Earth site to check if it was valid or invalid), but they are selling hundreds of them and they *all* work online. They didn't use a keygen, they got their keys from a source other than the official site or D2D, from a source you could never even think of and certainly the good folk at Fallen Earth wouldn't want you to know about (or their publisher wouldn't want Fallen Earth team to know about). Ok, fraud credit cards are also an option but very, very unlikely considering G2Play has been online for at least a year etc.

Keygens are a valid way to hack through games that can only use offline methods of checking whether a key is valid, but there just isn't a reasonable way to use a keygen for an online service.

Why would Cyanide care about their keys being sold online? Because they make less profit from that. Same with Activision and MW2. Activision say G2Play are a fraud and obviously in their mind they are, because Activision would never deal with a shop that allows people from "richer" countries to buy their games cheaper. They can always use excuses to hide their real intention which is to make more money out of their customers.
 
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