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Do Nvidia 295`s have the same issues as Ati 4870X2s

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Im starting to get a lot of nagging issues with my 4870X2 and im thinking of selling it and getting a Nvidia 295.

Or am i better waiting for something faster coming out from both camps ? whats the date on the next Nvidia or ATi

the current issues i have at the moment with ati are the following:

Blacks : watching High def its fine, watching ripped HD source shows or normal res dvds the blacks are blocky or have grey streaks though them very un,natural.
2d/3d bug : they fixed the issue in 9.1 and its back now in 9.2 but instead of the main GPU its the Slave GPU now.
Fan Profiles are broken : I have seen my card reach temps of 90c before i even notice that my fan is still running at its Idle 2d speeds, something iffy is going on as most of the time it works and speeds fan up accordingly but usual i get issues with it, if it was just random then fine but its doing it more and more.
Vsync issues : Vsync works perfectly when 1 monitor is connected, you try to connect a 2nd monitor and you end up with no vsync on the 2nd monitor, you unplug your main monitor and vsync magicly works on the monitor that didnt work.

there are lots of other issues that i dont like about ati

no gameing profiles.
no custom resolution support.
no fan profiles support
1 driver release per month ? i mean come on even if we get loads of betas its far better than 1 release that might just work 100% like its ment to, but that doesnt seem to be happing so i suggest they change there driver release scuedule...

i can go on and on, do i seem like im blowing all this out of porportion ? or do you guys think im in the right in saying the switch back to nvidia is worth it.

i want to hear your views becuse im not a happy camper with ATI at the moment, there driver team is like a team of monkeys on crack.
 
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Have you tried ATi Tray Tools instead of the CCC for doing profiles, as that lets you do the profiles exactly like Nvidia, and you could also try Rivatuner for doing fan profiles.

Id say theres no point in getting rid of an x2 for a 295 though, as both are around the same performance (so you'ld be spending more money on the same), and both have driver problems, Just looks like ATi have more, as they release more.
 
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Ditch it mate

I had a 4870x2 for a while and ended up going back to my gtx280
It was more consistant in games and didnt plague me with issues
The frame rate was far smoother

I wouldnt recommend any dual gpu solution from either manufacturer , there just
far too many problems and your at the mercy of the driver writers.

At least with a single card it pretty much just works out of the box
 
wombraider said:
Ditch it mate

I had a 4870x2 for a while and ended up going back to my gtx280
It was more consistant in games and didnt plague me with issues
The frame rate was far smoother

I wouldnt recommend any dual gpu solution from either manufacturer , there just
far too many problems and your at the mercy of the driver writers.

At least with a single card it pretty much just works out of the box
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User error doesn't equal a bad product. :rolleyes:

To be honest, are you sure the HD rips you're watching are the best quality? Because HD rips I've seen, while good quality, the black quality and dark colour quality is far superior on blu-ray.

Have you watched them on an other card and only noticed the difference when coming to the 4870X2?

As has already been said, you're best just setting up a profile with ATi Tray Tools.

The quality will be pretty similar from the NV cards as far as I know, in the past ATi cards had better image quality but NV has caught up with the GT200s.
 
Just buy the 295 and spare us another 'ATI is rubbish/No YOU11!' thread. Not only will it cure every computer issue you have and will ever have, but it comes with voucher for free BJ's and hookers.
 
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Well my X2 is fine and hasn't given me any of the problems i see some complaining about so in my mind it's one of two things. You either had a duff card in someway or something isn't setup properly. As for binning an X2 and buying a 295 if you really want to go do it but i doubt you'll be £100 more impressed with what you end up with just take a bit of time and read up on things and your X2 will serve you plenty good enough.
 
layte said:
Just buy the 295 and spare us another 'ATI is rubbish/No YOU11!' thread. Not only will it cure every computer issue you have and will ever have, but it comes with voucher for free BJ's and hookers.
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What a worthless post.:rolleyes:

Failed atempt at a 'joke' *cringe*
 
spitzoid said:
I swapped a 4870X2 for a GTX295, and as 99.9% of the reviews out there say, the GTX295 is better.
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You obviously would say that considering you've bought two of them. Anyone with £1000 of graphics that you could get the same performance with about £600 would say the same.

Though I int know what reviews you have been reading though because 89.2649% of sane computer enthusiasts know that while the gtx295 is 'faster' the also say that they're disappointed just how small a lead it has. We all know it's a good card on paper, but it's price makes it a card only for the fanboys. Oh and 76.892% of these forum users know most percentage statistics are entirely fabricated.

You're obviously a member if that 23.108% that doesn't... :o I bet you're a citizen of failsworth

And no I'm not bashing NV's products I'm bashing their prices and self imposed prestige, and the people who obviously don't line money being in their bank accounts or wallets.
 
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kylew said:
What a worthless post.:rolleyes:

Failed atempt at a 'joke' *cringe*
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+1 on that ¬.¬

anyways, ive got a 4870x2 and i absolutley cant fault it! really. im picky, if something isnt exactly the way i want it. i will cause a fuss. but not with this. such a good card. There is not really any other card you could buy and call it an upgrade.

just my pennys worth xD
 
kylew said:
You obviously would say that considering you've bought two of them. Anyone with £1000 of graphics that you could get the same performance with about £600 would say the same.

Though I int know what reviews you have been reading though because 89.2649% of sane computer enthusiasts know that while the gtx295 is 'faster' the also say that they're disappointed just how small a lead it has. We all know it's a good card on paper, but it's price makes it a card only for the fanboys. Oh and 76.892% of these forum users know most percentage statistics are entirely fabricated.

You're obviously a member if that 23.108% that doesn't... :o I bet you're a citizen of failsworth

And no I'm not bashing NV's products I'm bashing their prices and self imposed prestige, and the people who obviously don't line money being in their bank accounts or wallets.
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Just giving my opinion mate, I have owned both, and the GTX295 is better as both a single card, and in multi-card configuration.

I'm not a fanboy (as proved by the fact that I owned the 4870X2 when it was leading the way), I just like to have the best available - and for the time being that is the GTX295.

P.S. I thought all your attempted humour was 100% fail. Just an opinion you understand, like you said; you can't trust percentages.
 
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kylew said:
You obviously would say that considering you've bought two of them. Anyone with £1000 of graphics that you could get the same performance with about £600 would say the same.
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Also, it is obvious from the above drivel that you are clearly trying to emphasise your point (which is invalid) through lies & exaggeration.

Qusetion: Are the 295's really £200 each more than the X2's
Answer: No

You didn't try very hard at school if you think that they are......poor you. Yes, they are more expensive but that is because they are better, simple enough, even for a clown such as yourself.

You clearly can't afford the best products for yourself so you spout your jealousy-ridden bile at the ones that can in order to make yourself feel better.
 
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Is it that much better for the extra money it costs for most the answer is no it isn't. Your happy so end fo the day doesn't matter what anyone else says just as i am very happy with my X2.
 
spitzoid said:
Also, it is obvious from the above drivel that you are clearly trying to emphasise your point (which is invalid) through lies & exaggeration.

Qusetion: Are the 295's really £200 each more than the X2's
Answer: No

You didn't try very hard at school if you think that they are......poor you. Yes, they are more expensive but that is because they are better, simple enough, even for a clown such as yourself.

You clearly can't afford the best products for yourself so you spout your jealousy-ridden bile at the ones that can in order to make yourself feel better.
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Uhh :rolleyes: generally you need an sli motherboard when going for an ski config that's where the extra monies comes from.

As for being a clown I would have thought throwing your money away is what makes you a clown. What are you trying to prove by saying you buy the best because you can afford the best? That you have more money than sense?

I can afford 'the best' easily, doesn't mean that I buy it because I can. My monitor set up has cost £900 so far soon to be £1300. but just because I can afford it isn't reason enough for me to buy it. I don't throw my money away on tech that will be obsolete the day I buy it.

Gtx295 sli is a bit of a joke daly. Same with 4870X2 crossfire too, just moreso with the 295. By the time any games come out that require all that power there will be cheaper cards with newer and faster gpus in them. It's just a false positive.
 
Goodness me! Handbags at dawn. :(

While i agree with some of the things that kylew has said i don't feel he's approached the thread in a polite and considered manner. :confused:

I agree with the fact the 295 is overpriced but in the OP's position he can obviously afford the swap. He isn't liking his time with ATi (like myself - very good cards but iffy performance in game and lackluster CCC interface the last time i tried) meaning unless he has an SLi board for dual 260/280/285's only the 295 will do.

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