Do PCs have Microsoft office installed?

There are better features in the new versions of Office Vs old. Also between using the online 365 version and installing it locally. Likewise between other office suites.

But if you don't know that, then you don't need those features. Just use the old or free alternatives.
 
I've found nothing better than Office 365. Happily pay the subscription fee, lots of places sell an annual subscription for £40.

In fact Argos are selling the family version for £40 right now.
 
There are better features in the new versions of Office Vs old. Also between using the online 365 version and installing it locally. Likewise between other office suites.

But if you don't know that, then you don't need those features. Just use the old or free alternatives.

I have Office 365 due to work using both offline and online through Sharepoint - while there are some nice features not found in older versions I'd still go back to an older version in a heartbeat for personal use as other aspects undo a lot of the experience.
 
....unfortunately someone(s) at MS has an unhealthy attraction to the ribbon interface which largely I find hateful and has ruined many MS products since i.e. Explorer in 10 is just LOL.

Explorer is only in Win10 for compatibility with old web applications in companies.

I've always hated the ribbon. It comes that idea of only showing users what they can use at the moment. I think it's a terrible idea. It's stops you from exploring features imo.

Latest version of Edge is a big step up. I use it ss my default at work. But I'm in the Microsoft stack all day at work.
 
Explorer is only in Win10 for compatibility with old web applications in companies.

I've always hated the ribbon. It comes that idea of only showing users what they can use at the moment. I think it's a terrible idea. It's stops you from exploring features imo.

Latest version of Edge is a big step up. I use it ss my default at work. But I'm in the Microsoft stack all day at work.

Was talking about Windows Explorer (file manager) not Internet Explorer.

The one in Windows 7 just needed some tweaking and a few features like the advanced file copy dialogues and it would have been perfect - the one in 10 is an abomination (partly because they designed against the lowest common denominator i.e. low spec w/ touchscreen mobile hardware - rather than get the best out of each platform 10 supported).
 
I have Office 365 due to work using both offline and online through Sharepoint - while there are some nice features not found in older versions I'd still go back to an older version in a heartbeat for personal use as other aspects undo a lot of the experience.

I'm finding even at home, the kids are on 365 for school, we are all switching between pc laptop or mobile, with same users on many devices so a cloud suite makes much more sense.
 
Was talking about Windows Explorer (file manager) not Internet Explorer.

The one in Windows 7 just needed some tweaking and a few features like the advanced file copy dialogues and it would have been perfect - the one in 10 is an abomination (partly because they designed against the lowest common denominator i.e. low spec w/ touchscreen mobile hardware - rather than get the best out of each platform 10 supported).

Ok. Totally agree with you there. It's a confusing mess of duplicated local drives, folders, libraries, online and offline folders. Even after removing all the duplication. An update often as it all back
 
Ok. Totally agree with you there. It's a confusing mess of duplicated local drives, folders, libraries, online and offline folders. Even after removing all the duplication. An update often as it all back

I still don't know why the left hand navigation pane doesn't have an entry for a list of open and/or recent Explorer folders (sure you can drag down to the task bar) so you can easily drag and drop files from the currently active context to another destination with least input.
 
If you sign in to the office app you can use the ms office suite for free online for no fee, just uses your basic Microsoft account
 
I had to buy a new laptop a few months back after dropping mine - it came with some sort of MS office hassleware trying to get me to subscribe/buy it. Was a bit of a faf to remove.
I generally use google docs but also have libre office installed.
 
Only one mention of Google Docs? Will literally do everything she needs (I assume, unless she needs macros) for free with only a few limitations and a load of benefits such as collaborative working, free cloud storage, ease of sharing, etc. We use Google Docs professionally and only have to revert to Office for documents we get sent that are particular complex and it struggles to convert accurately.
 
That 1TB drive doesn't come with office though ;). Think of the 1TB one drive as a free bonus for paying for the office apps subscription.



Paying for MSDN/Visual Studio keys is always a risk though, yes they may never deactivate, but if you get a greedy seller who's dished out the same key multiple times then it's likely to get nulled.
I'll take that risk. You're guaranteed at least 6 months out of it, if it stops working in that time frame you can get your money back through PayPal dispute.

That's exactly what happens. As soon as they hit a peak activation Microsoft nulls the keys.
They stop it from being redeemed again after it has been used too many times. They very rarely remove activation from people that previously redeemed them, hence why mine hasn't been deactivated for years but can't be redeemed again on a new PC.
 
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