Do Space Aliens really exist?

I cant believe we are still having this discusion, they are real and here.

I have seen them on the youtube:rolleyes:
 
You wont get a serious response on this forum (if this was a serious question to begin with). :)

I will however say that what passes for governments are not what's really running the show here and those who think so are pretty naive.
 
If aliens are intelligent enough to somehow get themselves to Earth then they'd also be intelligent enough to think "WTF?!" when they see what politicians do and leave immediately. I'd say a strong argument for aliens not having visited our planet is that they haven't used their technology to eradicate anyone who identifies as a politician.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
Probably? Not necessarily.

Whilst I believe that they probably exist, there is a strong argument which is along the lines of, if they do exist then why haven't we seen any yet?
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Cos they're really far away?

I don't know if you know this but travelling vast distances across space takes freaking ages!
 
I think alien life is out there. I think it's a pretty narrow minded view that we are completely alone given the vastness of space and time. To think there's nothing out there at all (Any kind of life) is naïve in my opinion.
 
Even if super advanced aliens were 20,000 light years away which is small in universe terms, If they set out on course for us and could travel close to the speed of light, it would take them 2 years to get here; however on Earth we wouldn't see them until 20,000 years from now.

See how crazy long distance travel is. Not to mention finding us would be like finding one grain of sand on Earth.

So, aliens yes, close encounters no.
 
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sityeuropa said:
Even if super advanced aliens were 20,000 years away which is small in universe terms, If they set out on course for us and could travel close to the speed of light, it would take them 2 years to get here; however on Earth we wouldn't see them until 20,000 years from now.

See how crazy long distance travel is now.
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Working on how we see time etc. They may have a different way of travel!
 
koolpc said:
Working on how we see time etc. They may have a different way of travel!
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Maybe, or it might be the case that physics just doesn't allow cheating. No folding space.

So far nothing can reach the speed of light. Even if they could and they are teleported here. It would still for us take 20,000 years. So they will get here and probably see the aftermath of us destroying ourselves with nothing left.
 
Dis86 said:
Cos they're really far away?

I don't know if you know this but travelling vast distances across space takes freaking ages!
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Honestly, I don't know the full details of the argument, and I did argue with my friend when he proposed it to me. The thing that I think it hinges on is that if there are aliens out there, are we the most advanced of all of them? If not, then how is it that these more advanced aliens haven't found us or revealed themselves to us? Given the theory that there are infinite number of aliens in existence, they could also be infinitely advanced and therefore able to find us.
 
sityeuropa said:
Maybe, or it might be the case that physics just doesn't allow cheating. No folding space.

So far nothing can reach the speed of light. Even if they could and they are teleported here. It would still for us take 20,000 years. So they will get here and probably see the aftermath of us destroying ourselves with nothing left.
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You are working on 'our' technology and understanding of travel. Theirs may be ever so much more advanced!
 
Who's that ex footballer that writes books and does conventions on all the alien/lizard people stuff?

My direct manager believes all that rubbish like the royal family are lizards is disguise and has been to his speeches about it.
 
TLDR: We're technologically way beyond accepted science would have us believe and so are many of the civilizations 'out there' - society is engineered to keep the masses in a very narrow band of accepted science.


Using the explanation that space is so vast and that it would take any other civilization lifetimes to even reach us - as already mentioned - is only looking at things from the (currently disclosed) perceived limits of accepted science.

It's the equivalent of someone in the past where the height of technology was the sailing ship disbelieving that travelling the Atlantic could occur in mere hours, simply because it's beyond the limits of technology at that time.

Quantum Entanglement is a good example of science starting to get onto the right track; once they start looking more into how consciousness affects matter and what's beyond what we perceive as physical then we'll be getting somewhere and what we perceive as vast distances really aren't an issue.

Do we honestly believe that what NASA shows us is the pinnacle of what the Human race after all these years has managed to come up with in terms of space travel? Let's be honest, current space tech is a variation of an over-sized firework that fights against mavity to leave the atmosphere.

I think most people probably expect there are some secret programs (such as with the stealth bomber) that are years ahead of what we know of but it goes way beyond that - there's evidence various organisations/corporations came across anti-mavity (not strictly the right term but let's run with it) as far back as the 1950s, if not earlier, before reports on those early discoveries went into black projects when they realised what the implications were of revealing this sort of information.

This is just us, now multiply that by how many other planets, solar systems, galaxies and dimensions are out there.

As to why we're apparently not visited; well we are, but you try convincing someone of that when they've been brain washed all their lives to believe we're alone and anyone who says otherwise is a nut or a conspiracy theorist; a CIA invented term to discredit anyone who challenges the accepted story - they sure did a good job there eh, let the masses do the work for you, brilliant. :)
 
Anti mavity but lets still waste millions sending up rockets.

So we have already been visited according to Raoh. Aliens were lucky enough to shortlist Earth as a potential place of "intelligent" life. Are we even considered intelligent to universe travelling species or about as intelligent as how we see monkeys. Then they set out exactly at the right time for us to be aware of them arriving.

Why would they care about Earth, they are probably looking for their equals.
 
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When you consider the age of the universe, it's possible advanced inter-stellar civilizations existed and expired all before the first modern human evolved. It's also possible there are currently no inter-stellar civilizations.

But no life at all? That seems unlikely.
 
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