Do you believe in Hypnotism?

Gilly said:
Cos it's as believable as magic.
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Utter bobbins. Hypnotism is very real and a perfectly valid technique.
Stage hypnotism, however, is as likely to be faked by the participants as not.

If you read Derren Browns book it explains all the different scenarios (including really hypnotised subjects) in great detail.
 
Smit said:
No

Mythbusters tested this one before... They came up with, it will only work if you really want to do something, it can't be used to make someone do something they really don't want to
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That has been known for the last 70 years, it's only the public at large who have the misconception that a hypnotist can make you do anything against your will.
 
ElvisFan said:
Stage hypnotism, however, is dog ****.
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I'm shocked you said that.

I worked with many Hypnotists on stage up and down the country and was an unbeliever until it happened to my own wife.
The Hypnotist goes through a few rituals before the show and one is to hold your hands together and pull them apart - my wife couldn't.
No matter what we did her hands would not come apart and she is not the type to make a fool of herself in front of a Club full of people.
On stage she was a poor subject and he quickly left her alone but halfway through the show my sister in law was sitting in a trance.
I called him down, he looked at her and said he would deal with it after the show.

After that I decided to go to the next 'works do' that had a Hypnotist on called Eddie Burke and knowing the people who were subjects, I knew they were under properly.
I saw Eddie Burke 4 times in total and 3 times I got on stage to be put under but it just won't happen to me because my mind is way too active.
When you see it on TV or in a club on holiday you haven't got a clue who is getting up but when you see it at a 'Works do' and you know individual people then you know its for real.

I personally know 4 stage Hypnotists and I can 1000% guarantee it is genuine BUT a subject will not do things they don't want to do.
The mind has a cut off point that says 'I'm not doing that' but lets simple things through.
We had one guy at work called Chris who only ever saw Eddie Burke on video and he was the best subject you could ever see.
This one night Chris decided to go outside while Eddie did the warm up choosing subjects and he only came in when Eddie started.
Chris was at the bar with me when he suddenly fell into a trance and to the amusement of everybody I led him to the stage.

My cousin does Hypnotism for a living and many years ago I asked him what if you can't find a subject and he said you always find a subject.
I probed and said but there might not be anybody who goes under and he said they have little tricks for when that happens.
Basically they tell the subjects that thick people with no brains can't be hypnotised and only clever people can and somebody will always go along with it because they don't want friends/family to think they're thick.
Its actually the other way round - thick people are very good subjects.
He reckons about 1 in 20 shows he has to have a patsy.

True story about Carl:
He came home from Majorca and decided to do his shows here and asked me to do his backing tape for him.
Halfway through the spot he gets to a point where he wanted Leader Of The Gang by Gary Glitter and I told him 'NO'.
I tried to explain but he wouldn't budge on it.
He came to do his show in front of 5 local agents and a pub full of people (Duke Of Wellington nr Overclockers) and he was going down a storm.
He came to the Gary Glitter bit and the pub emptied except for the subjects who were all properly under and their friends.
He cut the act short and I had to explain what a paedophile was.

So yes, I absolutely know 1000% it works.
The mind can be very suggestable and we see that all the time on here with people who are religious, believe in Aliens, UFO's, 9/11 conspiracies etc.
 
I've been stage hypnotised by Paul McKenna. I went up on stage because I was bored of sitting in the audience. I was one of the 5 or 6 people out of about 20 originally that he didn't reject, so I got a front-row seat I suppose. (was sat right at the back originally).

I didn't believe in hypnotism in a stage-way, but I do think there's something you can do medically...

Anyway, I'm fully in agreement with whoever said that they weed out the unco-operative ones there. I was probably 18th in the line, so I tailored my responses to be what I thought he wanted me to say, so I could stay up there. It worked.

So he did his little routine, and to be honest I went into a really deep state of relaxation. I knew exactly what was going on about it, but it felt good to feel that relaxed. Wish I could train myself to put me in that state.

Anyway, I did what he told me to do, although at any time I could've 100% refused. Wasn't anything sexual or weird about what we had to do so we (the chosen few) obliged. I'm sure everyone else up there with me was fully aware of what was going on too, and in total control - they just wanted a laugh and to take advantage of the fact that they could get away with being 'tards because they had an excuse.

I don't think you can pull something from nothing, so anyone doing something like I dunno... what did we do? I had to conduct a symphony orchestra - so I tried to remember what the conductors I've seen when I was in a symphony orchestra (county junior one) and on tv did.
Then during the interval I had to randomly be the captain on some piratey type ship... I shouted "Captain Pellew" from Hornblower phrases that I'd seen the previous week or something.

He stole £20 off me too, but I got it back at the end.

Was a laugh and if possible I'd do it again. I don't believe you could get anyone to do something they even remotely felt uncomfortable doing.
*Something* happened to me, but that's just the relaxation. That's all it was.
 
I've read Derren Brown's book and it covers hypnotism in it, it's very interesting and worth a read. He talks about the ways in which it could work and experiments to see if it does. He seemed to think that a lot of the time it was people wanting it to work, so it did.
 
Having seen a live show and a stage hypnotist (sp?) in action, no I don't believe it for a second. Looked like a bunch of wannabe attention seekers to me !
 
Jono said:
So he did his little routine, and to be honest I went into a really deep state of relaxation. I knew exactly what was going on about it, but it felt good to feel that relaxed. Wish I could train myself to put me in that state.
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You probably can, I have never been hypnotised but meditation type techniques can achieved very deep states of waking relaxation.
 
To act like a tool? No.

To help address some post traumatic stress, psychological issues, quit smoking, boost self confidence - yes.

Some people respond to it, some don't, it depends on you.
 
All you who say it is BS have probably never been in the position where you know people in the audience.
If I was to take the immediate 15 members of my family there would be 3 of us (inc me) who you could say were up for a laugh.
I can absolutely guarantee that the other 12 would in no way ever get up onto a stage and do silly things.
You can also say this with your workmates/friends who you've known for donkeys years and again when certain people end up on that stage you know it isn't fixed.
I always thought it was tosh until I witnessed certain friends and family doing it.

Like Jono my wife ended up on stage and was a poor subject.
When he told her the bass player had no clothes on she saw clothes, when he told her that the seat was electrified it wasn't.
However, she sat there in a trance looking round like a tired child which was funny in itself.
When she got back to the table we had our first little argument in 8 years of marriage (this was 88) and she told me never to let her do that again because when her hands were locked tight she was begging me to take her outside instead of on the stage.
 
Yes its 'real' in the sense that it makes it useful to control sub councious thoughts, I cant beleive people are saying its not real ??!, how odd. Iv been hypnotised a few times for medical reasons and it works well, all it is; is training the mind to do something slightly different.

As for people saying 'ill know it works when u make someone jump off a cliff' type of statement, utter rubbish, you clearly dont understand how and why it works, the 1st basic rule of hypnotism is that you cannot make someone do something that a part of them wouldnt already want to do, i.e. you cannot make someone set themselves on fire, if they did then a part of them would have a desire to do it in the 1st place (which is very very unlikely obviously! lol)

So yeah, done properly (not stage mumbo jumbo) its all about training your mind
 
I saw a hypnotists show once at uni a friend went to be on stage and the hypnotist convinced her that he had extremely large **** and that he was naked. When he got close to her she was so shocked she swung for the bloke and full on clocked him one in the face then proceeded to run out of the students union, the hypnotist staggered back then realised that she'd run, he swore and cheesed it straight after her, he was gone for a good 5 minutes and looked very red faced when he returned. Brilliant, although I wouldn't do it.

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I've had hypnotherapy which has resulted in some very strange occurences, notably my hands feeling massive in a number of sessions.

Stage hypnotism works with somnambulists, not with your average Joe.
 
Well, seeing as I've hypnotised quite a few people, I know it works.

Its a very strange thing, but I can guarantee you it works.
 
Yes.
Some cut and paste stuff:

"Simply put, hypnosis is an altered state of consciousness characterized by heightened susceptibility to suggestion. Under hypnosis, suggestions bypass the critical faculties of normal consciousness and directly enter the subconscious mind–where “if accepted,” they are acted upon. The deeper the level of hypnosis, the greater the subject’s suggestibility.

This entire process is based upon the fact that while our conscious thought processes use inductive reasoning, our subconscious uses only deductive reasoning. Once a suggestion is accepted by the subconscious, it is automatically transformed into reality. It does not matter if the suggestion originates from an internal source (ie. self-hypnosis) or an external one (the operator). Indeed, the distinction between autosuggestion and heterosuggestion is considered to be both arbitrary and superficial.


There are four basic stages of hypnosis: 1) Hypnoidal; 2) Light Trance; 3) Medium Trance; and 4) Deep Trance–also called “Somnambulism,” a state in which an individual performs actions appropriate to the waking state while actually deep asleep. People who walk or talk in their sleep are exhibiting somnambulistic behavior."


Even "stage hypnotism" is usually very real but nobody should be able to dismiss Hypnotherapy; it's just a fact.
 
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