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Do you NEED that card, feeding the scalpers
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I "cripple" my fps to 60 to save electricity costs, run the card cooler so less noise from the fans and hopefully longer lifespan. My partner drives a car with a 3.6.litre engine, I use public transport. My transport experience is crippled compared to her 8 way adjustable power leather seats, but I have the satisfaction of knowing that my transport works out at more than 20 miles to the gallon. Not everyone wants the highest frame rates possible from a card, just one that is acceptable
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Nailed it sir
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Waste of time. The saving is literally 10 or 20 quid a year depending on your kw/h price, if that. The info is out there if you look.
I'm doing the same with my 4yr old 1080ti, turned the power down & still have decent performance. It's looking like it might need to last until the next gen.
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Hoping not to get flamed for this... but I'm going to bring in Maslow's "hierarchy of needs" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs
Food, water, shelter, safety - red and amber needs for sure. But psychological needs, social needs, esteem needs - these are all within the realm of needs in the human experience too. Perhaps someone is a VR gamer and wants to hang out with their friends (social). Perhaps you get a feeling of accomplishment and self esteem from playing games. Perhaps you're a creator or a competitive e-sporter and you actually get self-actualisation from what others consider a hobby. My point is we all value different things - our mileage will vary, your definition of needs and mine vary, that's fine. I'm happy with my RX550 placeholder, and to be honest I've mostly been doing other hobbies rather than gaming since Christmas. That's fine, that's my choice. Your needs... your choice.
What I think we do (largely) agree on is not to feed the scalpers. That's bad for everyone but the scalping few that ruin availability for the masses for personal profit.
Food, water, shelter, safety - red and amber needs for sure. But psychological needs, social needs, esteem needs - these are all within the realm of needs in the human experience too. Perhaps someone is a VR gamer and wants to hang out with their friends (social). Perhaps you get a feeling of accomplishment and self esteem from playing games. Perhaps you're a creator or a competitive e-sporter and you actually get self-actualisation from what others consider a hobby. My point is we all value different things - our mileage will vary, your definition of needs and mine vary, that's fine. I'm happy with my RX550 placeholder, and to be honest I've mostly been doing other hobbies rather than gaming since Christmas. That's fine, that's my choice. Your needs... your choice.
What I think we do (largely) agree on is not to feed the scalpers. That's bad for everyone but the scalping few that ruin availability for the masses for personal profit.
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Interesting.. Your post is the kind of answer I was sort of searching for on this thread: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/foru...-gpu-and-heres-why-self-help-thread.18930872/. Any, chance you could wing it in there please ? Sort of fits well and would balance the "tone/mood"
-- need to rename the thread though to "I might...." (and drop the "self help" bit)Interesting.. Your post is the kind of answer I was sort of searching for on this thread: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/foru...-gpu-and-heres-why-self-help-thread.18930872/. Any, chance you could wing it in there please ? Sort of fits well and would balance the "tone/mood"
renamed it: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/foru...-heres-why-self-flagellation-thread.18930872/
Nobody NEEDS a GPU with this much power. It's a want. If they want to waste all that cash then so be it.
Nobody needs a computer outside of work either, all we need is a smart phone. Just like nobody needs a car when you can walk, cycle, bus around.
Sadly it's the same with a lot of things. I do photography as a hobby and it's snobbery that ruins it for people, especially new people. If you don't have a trendy new Canon EOS xyz some people don't see you as a photographer and will mock you for it.
I dreamed of an 8800 GTS back in the day but stuck with my Radeon 9200se. It played BF2 alright though
I was meaning more quality settings - some games you take a huge quality hit to get playable frame rates on older GPUs, etc. immersive visuals is a good bit of the reason people even play games.
I use my systems for a vast range of stuff for my own enjoyment large amounts wouldn't even function on a phone.
From some posts on these forums I do have to wonder why (assuming they do) some people even own a PC or laptop as anything beyond casual web browsing and a bit of music seems alien to them.
"Nobody needs a computer outside of work" - that was bandied around in the Home Microcomputer era (late 70's & early 80's) . The likes of David Braben and the Oliver Twins would disagree. Eben Upton too
IT Professionals etc would disagree especially contractors / self employed. Especially in these times. The laptop is the computer of choice for most people, then a smartphone / tablet as fallback. Browsing the web on a touch screen phone is rubbish, doing anything useful without an external screen / keyboard is a faff. When you crank up (Max perf) the processing speed of a Smartphone you see the battery go down a percentage point or two every minute or so. There are some decent dock/integration solutions, but nothing really standard and not all smartphones are created equal. Would work reasonably with the £600+ premium models, but you'd be wiser to buy a £300 laptop and a £300 phone.
Point taken though, people can get by with just a smartphone if need be - and some have had to in 2020 for educational study. It's been universally deemed inadequate and many laptops/PC's have been donated and refurbished for educational purposes.
Buy a series S for now, trade in for a higher end console later if you want to. Play on whatever resolution allows 60fps. Problem solved.
Gonna see if I can trade in my bro's ps4 for a series S, as it looks like a good deal.
Games can be downloaded very cheap on MS Gamepass (£1 a month, just keep signing up for trial on new account), with streaming coming to all devices soon too.
Gonna see if I can trade in my bro's ps4 for a series S, as it looks like a good deal.
Games can be downloaded very cheap on MS Gamepass (£1 a month, just keep signing up for trial on new account
), with streaming coming to all devices soon too.
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Buy a series S for now, trade in for a higher end console later if you want to. Play on whatever resolution allows 60fps. Problem solved.
Gonna see if I can trade in my bro's ps4 for a series S, as it looks like a good deal.
Games can be downloaded very cheap on MS Gamepass (£1 a month, just keep signing up for trial on new account
soon you won't even need a S, Soon all new TVs will have gamepass hardware inside - all you have to do is have a Xbox controller, connect it to your TV and play gamepass
True, but for devices you attach to displays, surely that only applies to xCloud streaming? As all that requires is a low power CPU and chip to decode streamed content. Plus mini motherboard with usb, display and network ports.
And I think TVs with Series S equivalent hw built in will be expensive, if they are intended to play games offline.
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The great thing about the hierachy is it is universal, as you say everyone is unique. For loner who has no friends or family and a job they hate, they might only be able to achieve a sense of belonging and self esteem through an online community. Hell they might even feel they have become thier best self when they ran a BWL instance in WOW and didnt wipe once. Pretty sad state of affairs but those people do exist. I mean i really hope there arent that many people who would lose their physchology attainement by not doing all that without current gen graphics standard.
Under normal market conditions i think we can apply this logic, but the current market few people need to pay scalper prices.
Bear in mind this is the question of , do you need the card that badly you feed the scalpers, not about justifying having a high end card
that's partly why retailers are increasing prices of GPUs, if the scalpers are making money the shops want a cut tooUnfortunately, lots of people WANT a GPU to resell for profit.
I have a GTX 970 too, but after 1 hour of pc being turned on I start dropping frames when card hits 80c.
I replaced the thermal paste and even adjusted fan speeds with afterburner but nothing works.
So yes I do need a new card
I replaced the thermal paste and even adjusted fan speeds with afterburner but nothing works.
So yes I do need a new card
You and me both!