Do you own your own children/yourself?

jsmoke · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:21

I was having a discussion about citizen and your own children's ownership. It's good to know the fundamentals etc. So what's the relationship between the State and us or our children. Obvioulsy if we commit a crime then we are arrested/jailed etc. But even in our so-called free lives does the State still actually own you?

Russinating · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:23

What?

wedrum · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:26

jsmoke says it all

MassiveJim · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:37

What makes you think you "own" a child ?
you are responsible for the child but that's very very different to owning them.

Freakbro · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:39

Someone started on the bong early today!

cheesyboy · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:40

The one I find interesting is that if you get a limb amputated, you don't get the option to take it home. As far as I know.

If your neighbour trims your tree, he's supposed to offer the trimmings back, when a garage changes car parts, you can ask for the old ones, but not your own fingers or legs etc.

Yaayuh! · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:41

Wake 'n' Bake!

glenimp617 · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:42

jsmoke said:
I was having a discussion about citizen and your own children's ownership. It's good to know the fundamentals etc. So what's the relationship between the State and us or our children. Obvioulsy if we commit a crime then we are arrested/jailed etc. But even in our so-called free lives does the State still actually own you?

No, we don't technically own ourselves. We think we do, but the state owns us in reality. It amazes me that we have the option to opt in/out of being organ donors.

kinobestew123 · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:43

cheesyboy said:
The one I find interesting is that if you get a limb amputated, you don't get the option to take it home. As far as I know.

If your neighbour trims your tree, he's supposed to offer the trimmings back, when a garage changes car parts, you can ask for the old ones, but not your own fingers or legs etc.

I imagine that's from a health and safety point of view rather than an ownership point of view.

Kelt · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:44

He woke and he smoke.

CREATIVE!11 · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:45

OP hitting the rocks hard today....

[FnG]magnolia · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:56

jsmoke said:
I was having a discussion about citizen and your own children's ownership. It's good to know the fundamentals etc. So what's the relationship between the State and us or our children. Obvioulsy if we commit a crime then we are arrested/jailed etc. But even in our so-called free lives does the State still actually own you?

I'm the incorrectly spelled word in this OP.

byeo · 8 Nov 2018 at 09:58

Orionaut · 8 Nov 2018 at 10:01

MassiveJim said:
What makes you think you "own" a child ?
you are responsible for the child but that's very very different to owning them.

"Own" is perhaps not the right word.

But yes, the State certainly has more power and control over children than the Parents do, by a very large margin.

Josh · 8 Nov 2018 at 10:03

That's enough internet for today OP.

PapaLazaru · 8 Nov 2018 at 10:07

Rossi~ said:
Wake 'n' Bake!

Remember them days, was a long time ago mind.

signs · 8 Nov 2018 at 10:10

cheesyboy said:
The one I find interesting is that if you get a limb amputated, you don't get the option to take it home. As far as I know.

If your neighbour trims your tree, he's supposed to offer the trimmings back, when a garage changes car parts, you can ask for the old ones, but not your own fingers or legs etc.

brilliant , i wonder why not ?

Musty Pie · 8 Nov 2018 at 10:20

byeo said:
snip

HA! I thought the same thing, probably had the same expression too!

peterwalkley · 8 Nov 2018 at 10:31

cheesyboy said:
The one I find interesting is that if you get a limb amputated, you don't get the option to take it home. As far as I know.

If your neighbour trims your tree, he's supposed to offer the trimmings back, when a garage changes car parts, you can ask for the old ones, but not your own fingers or legs etc.

Has anyone contested this in court ? I suspect it would cost an arm and leg to try

robfosters · 8 Nov 2018 at 10:35

Orionaut said:
"Own" is perhaps not the right word.

But yes, the State certainly has more power and control over children than the Parents do, by a very large margin.

It’s hust a shame they don’t use that power and control as much as they should, judging by some of the awful abuse stories you hear on a weekly basis.