Poll: Does 0.99 Recurring = 1

Does 0.99 Recurring = 1

  • Yes

    Votes: 225 42.5%
  • No

    Votes: 304 57.5%

  • Total voters
    529
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Originally posted by AcidHell2
.....But its still flawed as we now in the real world 0.9r < 1.....
But does the concept represented by 'r' actually exist in the real world?

If not, then as it's a mathematical concept, the question is moot. Except philosophically.




/me ducks. :D
 
Originally posted by AcidHell2
why cant maths use an abervation like this??

it would corespond with the reall world. Make some problems more tideouse to work with but its correct??
No it wouldn't. If you don't accept the infinite decimal expansion of 0.9r, you can't possibly accept 0.0r1 corresponding to anything. After all, if you accept 0.0r1 exists, and 1 exists, then their difference is 0.9r, which therefor must exist. Its all or nothing I'm afriad ;)
 
Originally posted by AlphaNumeric
If you tried to right down the number 0.99999999999.....9999999....999999
you'd always find it < 1, true. But if you right "0.9r", you instantly take it out of the realm of the real world and into that of maths (exclusively) where 0.9r is defined as 1.
grr but it doesnt.....

the value is not finite and therfore can not be used in maths. and has to be rounded iether to 1 or with hundreds of 9s but still an end.
 
Originally posted by AlphaNumeric
No it wouldn't. If you don't accept the infinite decimal expansion of 0.9r, you can't possibly accept 0.0r1 corresponding to anything. After all, if you accept 0.0r1 exists, and 1 exists, then their difference is 0.9r, which therefor must exist. Its all or nothing I'm afriad ;)

ive excepted it exists :confused: where havent i??
 
Originally posted by AcidHell2
the value is not finite
Is root 2 finite? root 2 < 2 (obviously), but its got an infinite expansion, just likt 0.9r.
Besides, how can 0.9r be infinite, you just said it was <1, and 1 isn't infinite.

Yet again, you've contradicted yourself nicely :)
 
Originally posted by Matt Wood
Pi is not finite. It's often used in maths.
True.

AcidHell, whats sin(pi) ? (feel free to calculator it)

Sin is an infinite expansion polynomial, and pi is a never ending, non repeating number. Yet I can tell you exactly what sin(pi) is, with no room for error at all.
 
Originally posted by AlphaNumeric
Is root 2 finite? root 2 < 2 (obviously), but its got an infinite expansion, just likt 0.9r.
Besides, how can 0.9r be infinite, you just said it was <1, and 1 isn't infinite.

Yet again, you've contradicted yourself nicely :)

yes it will always be less than 1

even though its infinite its still less than 1.

if root 2 is not finite it cant be used in maths it has to be rounded.
or expressed vie an expresion like .9r
 
Originally posted by Wardie
0.1/2 = 0.05

0.09r/2 = 0.045r

Now surely, that shows there is a difference. I really can't understand how numbers can be the same, when they are different values. I'll keep reading though.
No. r is not a quantitly that is multiplied by 0.09. It's an indication that the 9s continune indefinitely.

So 0.09r/2 = 0.049r
 
Didn't bother reading past the 3rd page as it was starting to look like too many people had too much spare time mixed with too big an urge to be right this afternoon :p

But voted no. I was always taught that the only way any number ending with .99 recurring could end up a whole number would be if you rounded it up.
 
Originally posted by AcidHell2
even though its infinite its still less than 1.
You now are talking nonsense. Even those in this thread with no maths at all realise infinite is a lot bigger than 1! :D
Originally posted by AcidHell2
if root 2 is not finite it cant be used in maths it has to be rounded.
Sure it can.
x = root 2
I have x^2 + 1 = (root 2)^2 + 1 = 5

No error, no rounding up, no problem.
 
Originally posted by VDO
:eek: Who taught you?

This is basic A level stuff!

Mine was up to GCSE Level ;) And tbh it's basic common sense surely? Ask anyone on the street how the hell 0.99 could become 1 without rounding up and they're going to say it cant be.

Also if it's so definite according to you that it does equal 1 how come there's a poll and a huuuuuuuge debate about it? :D
 
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