This +1. I know it's a bit off topic, but why does the government think they can take our hard-earned money?
Does anyone else think this is wrong?
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This +1. I know it's a bit off topic, but why does the government think they can take our hard-earned money?
Because they provide you with lots and lots and lots of services. Just a guess there.
It's not. Providing JSA for the short termed unemployed isn't a loophole. It's a situation where a genric system fails to get results. There is also nothing remotely illegal about claiming in that situation. Lastly it's financially beneficial for the unemployed person to claim. Since when has committing rape or murder ever been beneficial for the perpetrator? Completely different situations.
I can see what you're trying to get at but considering the amount of tax the average person pays over their life, a bit of "free" money before they end up startng 50 years of constant employment is hardly morally wrong. If you personally find it a problem don't do it, but I'd never judge somebody just because it's something I wouldnt do.
Pretty much. Just like the mob gives you protection.
To be honest it takes most graduates at any level of degree a good 2-3 months to find work nowadays (at least, being optimistic). So during that time I don't see any problem with claiming JSA - these are people that have finished full-time education who actually are looking for a job in one capacity or another. They are 21+ year old adults who have likely moved home and so obviously the households/parents could use some financial support from having another dependent move back in with them.
This is an entirely different situation to 'oh I have a 3 month holiday before university starts and I want to have money to do stuff during the wait... may as well claim benefits'.
Eh???
Sorry, I passed a year ago (I'm 19) and if my instructor told me I was ready in 1 lesson I would say hang on let me have some more lessons.
I'm guessing most young people are stupidly confident and think they are the bee's knees.
Also to the OP, I'm in a similar position probably worse, one of my parents was recently made redundant I'm currently applying for jobs, had a couple of rejections last week but waiting to hear back from 6 more. I'm not claiming JSA, it's only needed in desperate situations. Yes it is tough for my family and myself but we manage.
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It does yeah.
Personally don't see what the problem is, don't see how it matters whether he's living at home or just about to start uni. If he needs the money to live then he should claim.
Because it's a Job Seekers Allowance, not a Oh, You're Not Doing Anything For a Few Months So Take Some Free Money Allowance...
Thats such a ridiculous comparison.
Which you may never use. Don't get me wrong, i do believe that such services like the NHS, education, protection services should be free. Just playing devils advocate.
Was is Einstein that once said "The hardest thing to get your head around is tax"
That's why i said if he needs the money to live.
But from the sound of the thread the reason he's claiming is because he's waiting around with idle hands to start Uni, and wants some free cash to plug the boredom gap during his summer holiday. The JSA is intended for people that are in a situation where they want work and NEED an income to survive. A pre-uni student spending a boring summer at home with his parents is not in such a situation that he should be getting £50 a week for free.
Or more precisely he is being taxed the same amount as the people a year before, except he may be paying that tax for longer if he is in a good job after graduating...
So every student waiting to start university next year can go on JSA this summer? Okay...
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I say claim the JSA....cos once you are working the gov will soon get it back 50 fold.
Circuitous logic though, create a bad feedback loop...
Because the government's justification for taking (increasing amounts) of tax off you is because they 'need' it to fund things like JSA. If so many hundreds of thousands of people weren't abusing JSA, the tax money could go on much better things to actually improve civil life for everyone in the UK.
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What if there were a benefits system that actually gave people the money they need to live when they can't work, or would be detrimental for them to be in work - eg. when you're in uni?