Does everyone hate learners or what?

had an old granny in some blue piece of South Korean rubbish car overtake me in 20mph zone earlier this week while on a driving lesson. Didn't know old people could overtake or drive at the correct speed limit?
 
Zefan said:
I don't understand why some learners go so slowly, I always stick to the limit and was doing 60 on my second lesson. Is everyone scared of speed :confused:
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I think it's good some of the learners stay slow, some of them are appalling. There's one Asian lady on my road who's learning and literally parks in the middle of the road after her lesson and needs a bus to get to the pavement. Once I couldn't pass properly and I got out of my can and I asked the instructor, why don't you get her to park properly and I was told to **** off :eek:

If a learner is driving reasonably I will give them ample space, if they are going 15 mph they will get grief off of me because if you are that terrified then you shouldn't even be on the road. People seem to think driving is a right, not a privilege.
 
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MrLOL said:
its down to the instructor

mine was the same, out onto the open road on my first lesson. he did the clutch control and changing gears and told me just to worry about acceleration and road position.

Not 10 minutes into my lesson he was telling me "C'mon gas gas gas, give it some more" to get me to keep up with traffic

If your instructor starts off like this, you're never going to be one of those learners doing 20 in a 30.
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Sounds like my instructor :) Decent bloke from an independent company instead of some noob BSM guy ;)
 
Zefan said:
I don't understand why some learners go so slowly, I always stick to the limit and was doing 60 on my second lesson. Is everyone scared of speed :confused:
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I was too aggressive behind the wheel when I started my lessons, therefore the instructor limited me to a maximum of 27-28mph....man that was annoying!
 
Zefan said:
I don't understand why some learners go so slowly, I always stick to the limit and was doing 60 on my second lesson. Is everyone scared of speed :confused:
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When you're learning not only do you have to keep a sharp eye on the road but you are also thinking how to control the car properly (when to change gear, clutch control etc etc.) Experienced drivers only need to focus on the road as they have mastered car control so their mind can focus purely on the road. When I was learning I 30Mph felt like 90Mph :eek:. It took me a while to go past 40 but my instructor timed it well as I never felt like she was pushing me too far out of my comfort zone.
 
We were all learners at the end of the day, thats how i think of it. I give them plenty of room & time when behind a learner as i remember other people doing the same for me when i was learning before, can't stand w****** who honk there horns or take the **** out of them while on the roads.

Liam
 
I actually used my horn for the first time yesterday, but it wasn't on a learner. We were at a junction turning right and he decided to wait a few light sequences before he cut in front of the oncoming traffic.
 
Howard said:
Sounds like my instructor :) Decent bloke from an independent company instead of some noob BSM guy ;)
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mine was an ex police driving instructor who has a family friend of a friend so to speak. Got most of his clients through word of mouth. I recommended another 1 or 2 friends from school to him.

Being a police driving instructor, and IAM member, he was a great fan of making progress and not hanging about un-necessarily.
 
[TW]Fox;13621026 said:
Learners are a nuisance but mostly its the instructors fault. I have lost count of the number of times a learner around here has brought a busy roundabout to a halt because the instructor is taking them out into heavy traffic before they've really mastered the basics. Whats wrong with spending lots of time in industrial estates until they've got basic clutch control?
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My thoughts exactly. They should keep off the busy main roads until the learner is competant in the mechanical controls of the car.
 
Eddietop said:
40mph zone = 50mph zone in the real world
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i get what you're hinting at but thats not true

Theres a 40mph limit round here that goes straight by a school. Literally theres 1 foot of pavement between the road and the school gates. As a result you're never more than 1 or 2 seconds away from a rampant child being in the middle of the road.

As a result id never dream of doing more than 40 on this road, as its usually fairly busy pedestrian wise

However further up, it goes into fields and no pavement and is still a 40, and id quite happily do 50-60 over there.

So rather than saying 40 = 50, its perhaps more accurate to say its important to teach new drivers what is a safe speed, and to keep up with traffic, rather than blindly following speed limits.
 
I'm riding a 125 at the moment and it's disgustingly slow going up steep hills. I regularly get jokers who love to sit as close to my rear wheel as they can, as if they think it's going to make me go faster.
 
I keep my distance to avoid panicking the learner, or in case they emergency brake for no good reason. When it is safe to pass I will do so, but I won't badger a learner.
 
everyone is a noob once, yet we still shout NOOB at them at every opportunity!!!



NOOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!


live with it, and one day you get to hate learners as well. Chinese ppl call learners "Driving Gods" :rolleyes: :D
 
MrLOL said:
Not 10 minutes into my lesson he was telling me "C'mon gas gas gas, give it some more" to get me to keep up with traffic

If your instructor starts off like this, you're never going to be one of those learners doing 20 in a 30.
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My instructor told me pretty early on that if I wasn't doing 10% over the limit the following drivers would do something stupid. Then he told me not to repeat that to the examiner. Mind you, he did keep leaning over to check the speedo on my test.


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Howard said:
I am patient (to a certain extent anyway) with learners - after all, we've all been there! It's the ones that are supposed to have passed a test but still suck that annoy me ;)
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Same, will generally let learners potter along in front of me (unless theres some urgent need to get past them) as we all started somewhere
 
R420LA6X2/4MNA said:
"Flashing out" a learner who's on their test will get them a fail! - The instructor would mark them down for failing to see the on-coming car warning them of its presence (thats pretty much how the highway code says it iirc - cba to check right now!) you have no idea if its a lesson slowing you up or somebody on a test, remember that.

You would not believe how many times I have seen somebody "flash out" another car and then plough straight into them!

Just because something is common practice it does not make it right, that said, like everybody else, from time to time I do it myself also. :o
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Really? i was always told i could go on other peoples signals but not signal others, again you have to use some common sense you wont pull out in front of a car doing 40 if he is flashing his lights, but if you can see him slowing down you might.
Examiners tend to wear high vis jackets.

Yeah, there are a fair share of idiots on the road and i treat anyone as such and i've not had too many surprises.

Either way i don't find myself flashing many people out especially learners.
 
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