Does something need to be done about dogs?

Purdy said:
You’re close to saying the odds of it happening are 50/50 with every breed, it either happens or it doesn’t
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I'm trying to move away from this being about 'the odds' and any kind of statistics driving the approach to this. Simple numbers do nothing to resolve the issue.

The "statistical odds" of me being in an accident are very low because I don't own any of the cars on the top ten list of accidents per 100,000 models... and yet I would be a fool not to follow the same safety rules as everyone else, because the actual risk of me being in an accident are (almost) nothing to do with what model of car I drive.

Same here, in that there are enough dogs of various breeds that can cause serious injury, regardless of whether they can/do kill, that what matters far more is peoples' attitudes and behaviours to those dogs in the first place.
 
neocon said:
I bet nothing ever changes, but I'm really not keen on dogs and dog faeces in public places. I know it's the owners who don't clean up after the dogs at issue. Seriously though, people don't clean up after their dogs outside schools and in parks.
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I'm glad to say around my area I'm seeing many dog owners carrying the doggy bag back with the dog(s) on the leash but there is always one or two who don't while the majority keep it tidy. It's those one or two that ruins it for everyone else.

I remember that time in the 80s that was common playing football in the local park/swing park how it was different times. There were no fines for that then but I remember when we were all playing football and slipped into a big dogs faeces. I freaked out but nobody saw it as the grass was ankle length. Playing in the park again never left you with confidence ever again.
 
people.com

2 Children Killed, Mother Hospitalized After Family Pit Bulls Attack Them Outside Tennessee Home

The two dogs were euthanized after the deadly attack
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Imagine your "pet" Pit Bulls eat both your children and leave you scarred for life.

Unbelievable. I can only imagine the desperation, sadness, anguish and guilt what's left of the family is feeling. For sure, conversations with the wider family and friends will have been had in the past about keeping these animals.

Just not worth it really is it?
 
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I was attacked by a family friend's Alsatian when we lived in Germany. I was only 4 at the time and now have scars across my scalp. Luckily the dog attacked the top of my skull, not my face so only a large scar down my left temple is visible. Dogs and small children are not a good combination and I worry that I see so many parents with young children and their lockdown dogs. I really can't remember a time when so many people have dogs (as I have already mentioned earlier in the thread.)
 
When I have bred the occasional litter I can't even recall how many people I have refused to sell a puppy to after questioning their situation. I've had aggression and near violence from thwarted buyers, too, but being in the motor trade I am pretty resolute when push comes to shove and am not easily intimidated, thankfully. They'll probably just find someone less fussy and buy from them, but my conscience is clear.

So many people who have totally unsuitable situations and lifestyles but want a big dog on an ill thought out whim.... :(
 
AndyT said:
people.com

2 Children Killed, Mother Hospitalized After Family Pit Bulls Attack Them Outside Tennessee Home

The two dogs were euthanized after the deadly attack
people.com people.com

Imagine your "pet" Pit Bulls eat both your children and leave you scarred for life.

Unbelievable. I can only imagine the desperation, sadness, anguish and guilt what's left of the family is feeling. For sure, conversations with the wider family and friends will have been had in the past about keeping these animals.

Just not worth it really is it?
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Thoughts and prayers, its not the breed, its how you raise them etc.
 
As most people know on here I am a cat man - Before I became a cat man we had dogs at home - I can remember out first dog (or my first recollection) and it seemed a big dog - from there on we has Alsatians most of the time and one big dog I forget the breed (Airdale -it's come back to me) but it didn't last long as it was unpredictable - Then we had a Old English bull dog (white with black spot) - She was a great dog to us as a family - never a bad moment and it was a sad day when she went. - I left home and have never wanted a dog since -That doesn't mean I don't like dog's but now I have no patience with dogs that are not trained.
We have a dog bleeder over the road and the barking really get's up your nose.
In my day I don't think having a Bulltype dog was a sign of being macho.

Another thing I seem to remember is we were told to not upset our dogs - just be calm and pet them - I can't ever remember me or my two brothers playing the dogs up.

Times have changed and this is what you get - seems to be like everything else in this day and age.
 
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DXP55 said:
Times have changed and this is what you get - seems to be like everything else in this day and age.
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Yes, things. Lots of things have changed. When I was a teenager I had a Collie. Vert well behaved we was. In my twenties I travelled a lot so having a dog was not practicable. Now I am in my seventies and I have a Collie. Also well behaved. Some some thing don't change.
 
Dogs are a pain in the arse, smelly, potentially dangerous no matter what then breed and require constant supervision like a child.

A lot of dog owners do not take responsibility for the dog they own, I see it everyday. Walking past dog poo daily all over the paths and on the side on the grass. Owners going out for the majority of the day to leave the dog barking in the house. Letting dogs just run all over the park while young children are playing. It really is disgraceful behaviour

A license should be required and owners should be trained more then the damn dog!
 
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potatolord said:
The old lady in penyrheol (s wales) has now died from her injuries.

www.bbc.co.uk

Caerphilly: Woman, 83, dies after being injured in dog attack

The woman died from her injuries after being attacked by dog on 3 December.
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The dog, a large black XL bully cross cane corso breed

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Cane Corso Bulldog Mix: Complete Guide

Crossbreeds like the Cane Corso Bulldog Mix and the Cane Corso Bullmastiff Mix are becoming ever so popular in recent
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A Cane Corso Bulldog Mix is every bit as hardworking, loyal, protective, and alert as its parent breeds. These qualities make them excellent bodyguard dogs.

On the negative side, this dog is unfriendly to pets and strangers, and it will require socialization training to get along with other dogs.
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"Loyal and protective" that's the problem, outside the family unit aggressive dogs like the above can see other people outside the family unit as a threat and act accordingly (when there is no owner around).
 
Freddie1980 said:
"Loyal and protective" that's the problem, outside the family unit aggressive dogs like the above can see other people outside the family unit as a threat and act accordingly (when there is no owner around).
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Yep, as Loyal tends to mean unfriendly towards anything not their owner without good training.
 
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