Does something need to be done about dogs?

Why do some dog owners always go full retard? "Well if you're going to ban dogs ban humans, they're worse".
Humans are worse but you know...they're essential for continuation of the human race. Dogs are not essential. They're nice to haves. They can be useful.
 
dowie said:
Again no, that's a common misconception. Why try and pretend there aren't differences between breeds here or indeed between the behaviour of individual dogs. You can lessen the risk but you can't eliminate it completely and while any dog can snap some are far more dangerous in the event they do so.

There are plenty of anecdotes from say, pitbull owners, bull terrier owners that their dog is perfect and wouldn't hurt a fly adding another personal anecdote about some beliefs re: a few dogs you've owned is pretty pointless as an argument.
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As someone who is classing all dangerous dogs as the same, offering personal experience is normally a good way to tell you, you are wrong. Its not hard is it.

dowie said:
But my argument isn't to ban all dogs, if you can't even state my argument correctly then trying to extend it like that is just silly.
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Your argument is to ban all dogs that is classed as dangerous in your eyes. So same must go for everything else.
Dis86 said:
Why do some dog owners always go full retard? "Well if you're going to ban dogs ban humans, they're worse".
Humans are worse but you know...they're essential for continuation of the human race. Dogs are not essential. They're nice to haves. They can be useful.
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Silly questions get met with silly answers thats why.
Humans may be essential for continuing the human race, nothing says we need to have all humans the same or to exterminate and remove a certain gene pool from existence because they could be bought up wrong, sorry I mean naturally violent for no reason outside of being dangerous.
 
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sidimmu said:
As someone who is classing all dangerous dogs as the same, offering personal experience is normally a good way to tell you, you are wrong. Its not hard is it.


Your argument is to ban all dogs that is classed as dangerous in your eyes. So same must go for everything else.

Silly questions get met with silly answers thats why.
Humans may be essential for continuing the human race, nothing says we need to have all humans the same or to exterminate and remove a certain gene pool from existence because they could be bought up wrong, sorry I mean naturally violent for no reason outside of being dangerous.
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The only reason those genepools exist is because we created them. They are not a natural occurrence.
 
sidimmu said:
As someone who is classing all dangerous dogs as the same, offering personal experience is normally a good way to tell you, you are wrong. Its not hard is it.
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I'm not doing that though.

sidimmu said:
Your argument is to ban all dogs that is classed as dangerous in your eyes. So same must go for everything else.
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Yes, dangerous humans get locked up in prison. Or in the event they're actively a threat sometimes they're killed too - such as armed criminals/terrorists or opposing forces during war.

Again I didn't suggest all dogs should be banned though did I, your attempt to follow the argument through to absurdity is inherently flawed.

sidimmu said:
Humans may be essential for continuing the human race, nothing says we need to have all humans the same or to exterminate and remove a certain gene pool from existence because they could be bought up wrong, sorry I mean naturally violent for no reason outside of being dangerous.
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But some breeds were literally bred for fighting bulls or other dogs... they were created via human intervention and can be eliminated by human intervention.
 
dowie said:

Britain's Top Dog, the Staffie, is breed most likely to be found in shelters | Preloved

The Staffie has been crowned Britain's Top Dog Breed, so why are so many still waiting for furever homes in shelters across the UK?
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10 most common dog breeds in UK rescue centres, thanks to being "too ugly for Instagram"

Shocking new research reveals how social media is changing dog owner behaviour
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Other research, as well as other 'opinionated blog' type posts also list generally the same dog types... But there isn't so much a clear winner. Maybe the numbers trend, but I was hoping for something more concrete, like actual stats though - Even the links you posted reference Rescue sites that show more GSDs and Labradors than Bull types currently.

Dis86 said:
Why do some dog owners always go full retard? "Well if you're going to ban dogs ban humans, they're worse".
Humans are worse but you know...they're essential for continuation of the human race. Dogs are not essential. They're nice to haves. They can be useful.
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It's not specific to dog-owners.
Many people, including the government, have a history of going full retard and kneejerk-banning things... especially when the only people it punishes are those who were law-abiding in the first place. In many ways, it's become so expected, that people understandably jump to that as the only possible outcome.
 
ttaskmaster said:
Other research, as well as other 'opinionated blog' type posts also list generally the same dog types... But there isn't so much a clear winner. Maybe the numbers trend, but I was hoping for something more concrete, like actual stats though - Even the links you posted reference Rescue sites that show more GSDs and Labradors than Bull types currently.
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You haven't posted anything though and you acknowledge that there are plenty of bull terrier-type dogs in shelters ergo what is the issue? I could understand an objection if they're super rare but clearly, that isn't the case and previous headlines have cited them as the most common etc. so what does it matter if taking a snapshot at some shelter now has more labradors?
 
Dis86 said:
I certainly have a fair level of investment.
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Lets be real though, the only reason people have kids is because of ego and the fact that they think the world needs their offspring. This is coming from someone who doesn't have kids but equally doesn't hate them(I have nieces and nephews who I would protect if I needed to).
 
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gingergundog said:
Lets be real though, the only reason people have kids is because of ego and the fact that they think the world needs their offspring
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That’s a bit bonkers. Because of ego?? You’ll have to explain that one to me - genuinely, I’m not taking the pee - I don’t think I understand what you mean by that. Best I can grasp is you think people have kids because their egos make them think their kids are going to be something special or exceptional and change the world somehow?? Could be totally wrong of course!
 
Thekwango said:
That’s a bit bonkers. Because of ego?? You’ll have to explain that one to me - genuinely, I’m not taking the pee - I don’t think I understand what you mean by that. Best I can grasp is you think people have kids because their egos make them think their kids are going to be something special or exceptional and change the world somehow?? Could be totally wrong of course!
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Pretty much that, although not even that they think they will be special, just that they exist, that the world needs them.
 
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