Dog attack

Sorry to here about your dog. Just shows that the sooner people stop letting their dogs off leads when there are other dogs about the better.

You might think you can control your dog, but you can never tell how someone elses dog will react. Whenever I used to take my dog out she was muzzled and on a lead. Even so, she'd try and go for other peoples dogs that came near her which would always result in angry shouts in my direction. Just because their dog is "friendly" they assume everybody elses dog wants to be their delightful creatures friend...
 
Gilly said:
This evening my mum was walking my dog, he's been here today while I've been working and playing football.

The park was empty and the night was drawing in, though it wasn't quite dusk, and there was no-one about. So my mum let him off the lead. After a few seconds he pricks his ears up and sniffs the air, and starts ambling towards the gate, so my mum went after him, calling him. Unfortunately he's still a young dog and when he gets a scent or sees another dog he just doesn't listen.

A pitbull (unconfirmed) came into the park on a very long lead (the sort you have for a smaller dog, with a click button that allows them a bit of room to roam without letting them off the lead) and Rocky goes to sniff and to say hello. He's a playful dog and sometimes annoys older dogs when he won't leave them alone.

The other dog snapped at him, grabbed him by the throat and started thrashing him around, all the while the guy with the lead is shouting at my mum to get her dog off his :confused:

Rocky has been to the vets and has been given a course of antibiotics and we've had to saltwater bathe the wounds.

I'm glad in a way that I wasn't there, because I'd have killed the other dog and quite possibly the owner. All he did was stand there shouting at my mum. Didn't shorten his dog's leash, didn't attempt to get it off my dog's throat... My mum believes we should go to the police, but I'm not sure there's anything they can do.

That's a dangerous dog though that doesn't have the correct precautions. It had a harness on and a clicker lead. Dumbfounding.





He's had a bad reaction to his antibiotics. He's going to the vets again tonight.
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pwned
 
Sorry, I didn't have time for a proper response earlier.

We've taken him off his antibiotics and he already seems much happier. The vet didn't seem troubled by it, and we're just monitoring him now.

FishFluff said:
Just shows that the sooner people stop letting their dogs off leads when there are other dogs about the better.
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That didn't happen in this situation.
 
Hope your dog makes a good recovery, last thing you Mum would need in that situation is someone shouting at her.

Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of plonkers attracted to these type of dog. There fine with a good owner but when you add a would be hardman into the mix its a dangerous combination.
 
wordy said:
Some dogs are dog aggresive and responsible owners keep them on leads. That is classed as under control because you can move it away from other dogs, therefore preventing a fight or restrain it. If another dog that is off lead runs up to it then the off lead dog can't be restrained by it's owner can it?
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rofl, where did you get that misinformation from?
A dog on a lead in no way classifies it as under control... or anything else for that matter. I think you're trying to sound like you know what you're talking about, rather than actually knowing what you're talking about ;)
 
Helium_Junkie said:
rofl, where did you get that misinformation from?
A dog on a lead in no way classifies it as under control... or anything else for that matter. I think you're trying to sound like you know what you're talking about, rather than actually knowing what you're talking about ;)
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http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/domestic/dogs.htm

If a dog is dangerously out of control in a public place - then the owner or the person in charge of the dog is guilty of an offence, or, if the dog while so out of control injures any person, an aggravated offence under the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991. In proceedings against a person who is the owner of a dog but at the material time was not in charge of it, it should be a defence for the accused to prove that the dog was at the material time in the charge of a person whom he reasonably believed to be a fit and proper person to be in charge of it.
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Which would to me indicate a responsible owner who knows he has a potentally aggresive dog would take appropriate steps to keep it under control which unless you can prove otherwise I'll take to meaning a lead, (seen as how this is how dogs are kept under control worldwide) and muzzled if needed.

If you want to debate and correct me when I've made a mistake, fine. Otherwise take your sarcastic posting style and shove it up your arse.
 
Wordy:

Just to set the record, I'm agreeing with you on practically everything.

However, just to clarify the "in control" thing. Helium_junkie is actually right to be honest, just 'cos your dog is on a lead doesn't technically class it as been controlled.

In fairness you DO have MORE control with your dog if it's on a lead, and unless it was a pretty horrific ordeal, then the eyes of the law would look favourably on you by saying you've made every steps to ensure your dog is in control.

However:

Back to Gilly's situation; His dog was not under control (it was off the lead). The said 'attacking' dog was under a lot more control, however it's arguable if the dog has an aggresion with other dogs and as such should it have been muzzled as well. You can't really argue with that as no one here knows for sure. If the dog had been muzzled and was on a leash and, say for example, it's claws or muzzle had cut Rocky, then you really can't blame the owner at all as they've made every possible attempt (other than keeping it in) to keep the dog in control. Just a real unfortunate incident.

Likewise you may have a friendly dog who is on the lead walking by. See's a kiddie coming towards them with a bag of sweets. The dog may lunge towards the sweets (NOT nasty at all, just been a greedy bugger), knocks kid over, kiddie cries and you end up with a parent claiming your dog is nasty and uncontrolable.

Gotta admit, you didn't have control of the dog and it's on the lead.

It's a minefield, it really is and I refuse to believe that any dog is 100% predictable in any situation. But having a dog on a lead makes you in a lot more control than off, but there are still situations where you will still be classed as not been in control.
 
~J~ said:
Wordy:

Just to set the record, I'm agreeing with you on practically everything.

However, just to clarify the "in control" thing. Helium_junkie is actually right to be honest, just 'cos your dog is on a lead doesn't technically class it as been controlled.

In fairness you DO have MORE control with your dog if it's on a lead, and unless it was a pretty horrific ordeal, then the eyes of the law would look favourably on you by saying you've made every steps to ensure your dog is in control.
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Fair enough I probably should've made it a bit clear as to what I meant. Didn't just mean because your dog is on a lead it's under control end of story. I meant that I would've thought it is under control if it is on a lead and the lead is being used as a method of control, providing of course the owner was phyisically capable of exterting control of it.

~J~ said:
However:

Back to Gilly's situation; His dog was not under control (it was off the lead). The said 'attacking' dog was under a lot more control, however it's arguable if the dog has an aggresion with other dogs and as such should it have been muzzled as well. You can't really argue with that as no one here knows for sure. If the dog had been muzzled and was on a leash and, say for example, it's claws or muzzle had cut Rocky, then you really can't blame the owner at all as they've made every possible attempt (other than keeping it in) to keep the dog in control. Just a real unfortunate incident.
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Like you say though none of us know the other dog, it maybe aggressive but at the same time it may just have thought that the dog running quickly towards it was a threat.

~J~ said:
Likewise you may have a friendly dog who is on the lead walking by. See's a kiddie coming towards them with a bag of sweets. The dog may lunge towards the sweets (NOT nasty at all, just been a greedy bugger), knocks kid over, kiddie cries and you end up with a parent claiming your dog is nasty and uncontrolable.

Gotta admit, you didn't have control of the dog and it's on the lead.

It's a minefield, it really is and I refuse to believe that any dog is 100% predictable in any situation. But having a dog on a lead makes you in a lot more control than off, but there are still situations where you will still be classed as not been in control.
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I think a key phrase is responsible owners, and how the lead is used. For instance, keeping a dog on a short lead when around people would pretty much stop a dog jumping up at someone as the lead wil restrict it movement so much.
 
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