Dog Walking *Rant*

InvaderGIR said:
Dogs are not dangerous animals, they will only be dangerous if they are trained to do it and are prevoked.
Dogs are only dangerous if they are trained to be? Please tell me this is a joke :)
 
dirtydog said:
Dogs are only dangerous if they are trained to be? Please tell me this is a joke :)

As funny as if I said that all cats will maul you to death as if there is absolutely no difference between a Lion and a domestic Tom. Certain breeds are more likely to attack hence why the dangerous dogs act was welcomed by me. Mass hysteria that every dog will turn on anybody and everybody in site is not welcome by me as I see no evidence.
 
Wang Computer said:
So you’re suggesting I lack sense? I beg to differ!
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Wang Computer said:
Wow, the voice of insight! You really have no idea… Perhaps you even underestimate how much intellect a dog generally has. It’s a common misconception.


Wang Computer said:
I regularly walk my dog next to main roads without a lead. I don’t recall any road accidents caused as a result. It really depends on the temperament of the dog. I just ask of you to stop generalising; it doesn’t help your argument much.
Fair point I guess for which I apologise. I often dip my wick in the local whorehouse and as yet haven't received any STD's. I guess it depends on the woman really and shouldn't generalise that the best form of a cure is prevention.

Wang Computer said:
What on earth are you talking about?
Barn door. Bolt. Horse. Too late. Er, ok, simple terms. Man A has dog on lead. Dog see's cat, dog chases cat, dog can't because it's on lead. Man B has dog on lead. Dog sees cat, dog chases cat, dog eats cat, cats owner tells off Man B and says Dog should be on lead. Thus Man A + Dog + Lead = Happy, Man B + dog - Lead = Sad.

Wang Computer said:
Do you know anything about how laws are exercised? Obviously not… Come on, wake up, laws like that are never enforced in such a draconian fashion. If you have dog which a) isn’t classified as dangerous and b) for all intents and purposes is not a threat to anyone, then the chances of prosecution are so unbelievably remote. There’s probably more chance of you demonstrating some humility in this thread.
Bold sentance highlighted for purpose of highlighting what you've said. So you admit there's a possible concern? Are you really prepared to take the risk? Doggie Russian Roulette? Tell me, does this very attitude you have give you the right to put other drivers in danger when they see a dog walking at the edge of the road and have to slow down because they can't forsee what will happen? Is this very attitude you have that things "might happen", that your "chances" are slim really warrent you to be branded as a responsible owner?

Wang Computer said:
Honestly, if you’re going to offer advice to people you don’t actually know, try not doing so with such fevered sanctimoniousness. It won’t win you any favours.
Time to get cocks on the table here. Yes I HAVE actually been through this which is why I can see 'almost' both sides to it. Yes I was 'threatened' on a daily occurance when I took my dog for a walk by an owner with a dalmation who had no control whatsoever on her dog. NO the dog did not attack, NO the dog wasn't on a lead and YES each and every time the pathetic "o she's ok, she doesn't bite" BS was sprouted. Yes I reported it to the police and Yes they informed me that I only need to feel threatened for action to be taken. Several months later the dog was destroyed, put down, put to sleep, went to the big kennel in the sky and I felt relief in been able to walk my dog without fear in MY park. So please, not only learn to spell the word "sanctimonious" correctly, but reserve judgement on people before you give sentance.

Wang Computer said:
Says it all really!
Where did I say I read it?

InvaderGIR said:
dogs will NOT attack, get over it, christ.
Sorry, but you're a bloody fool.
 
It's not about them "turning on anybody and everybody in site"

It's about the small but present risk of one attacking somebody, and affecting others around you who may well be rightly terrified of dogs...

James
 
Third Opinion said:
As funny as if I said that all cats will maul you to death as if there is absolutely no difference between a Lion and a domestic Tom. Certain breeds are more likely to attack hence why the dangerous dogs act was welcomed by me. Mass hysteria that every dog will turn on anybody and everybody in site is not welcome by me as I see no evidence.
So you agree with me that it is silly for someone to say that a dog can only be dangerous if it has been trained to be :)
 
cloudy said:
It's not about them "turning on anybody and everybody in site"

It's about the small but present risk of one attacking somebody, and affecting others around you who may well be rightly terrified of dogs...

James

There is a small but present risk of somebody driving down the street losing control an mowing my children down in a car. Would it be ok for me to ask drivers to go another route while I use that road because they make me nervous?
 
Third Opinion said:
There is a small but present risk of somebody driving down the street losing control an mowing my children down in a car. Would it be ok for me to ask drivers to go another route while I use that road because they make me nervous?
Why do you and others in this thread keep coming up with the most ridiculous analogies?
 
Third Opinion said:
Not ridiculous to me. The standard of many peoples driving scares me more than anybodies dog does.


And drivers are entirely liable for their actions, driving around a school at 100mph would be widely condemed even if you happened to not hit a child.

The same with dogs, if there's a simple solution like a lead - why are you so against it?

James
 
AtreuS said:
Im sure you would find that there is always a reason why a dog turns nasty. Sometimes the owners are so daft they simply dont see a reason and just blame the dog. I trust my 2 dogs 100% but when we have visitors with kids i put them both out of the way. Any responisble owner would do the same.

I have just skimmed through and noticed this. I have a question.

If you trust your 2 dogs 100%, why would you feel the need to put them both out of the way when you have visitors? :confused: :confused:

I have to say though I have always found my friends boxer nothing but plain stupid! A couple of years ago he could push me over quite easily. Now with his dodgy hips he is comical, as he tries to play, but knows he cant.
 
All dogs in essence are derrived from wolves, so yes technically they are dangerous, but due to the breeding of them they are not.

If you get a puppy and treat it like **** then it'll be an unhappy little puppy, and when it grows up it'll be a nasty dog. Now take the same animal from a puppy and bring it up nicely and it's a safe and decent dog.


The country and world has become far too PC and scared of everyhting and anything thesedays thanks to the media etc.

Due to the strong views of prettymuch everyone on this forum I don't see much point in my trying to show and carry on with this argument.

And yes, I know you'll all flame for it, big whoop.

If you don't know much about dogs/animals though I would say you should stop pushing you BS views to people.

InvG
 
FakeSnake said:
I have to say though I have always found my friends boxer nothing but plain stupid! A couple of years ago he could push me over quite easily. Now with his dodgy hips he is comical, as he tries to play, but knows he cant.

Careful one false move and he will slober you to death. ;)
 
Talking of that, does anyone else find owners kissing their dogs and letting them slober all over their faces completely repulsive? :D
 
I can see both sides of the storey but the woman did over react by the sounds of it. You can tell when a dog approaches being friendly or when it's not. I would have pointed out to her that by acting like she did, a dog would probably attack her quicker than if she remained calm!

I absolutely love boxers, they are by far the best dogs IMO. Though you can't be too careful with them eventhough you think they are harmless, especially with young children they can be very, very protective of them and attack for this reason. I'll always remember the day my parents popped out and left my sister to mind us. Someone from the housing association came out to check some things in the house and our boxer pinned him against the wall and wouldn't let him move. It took all 6 of us to drag the dog of the guy and let him escape. He returned the next day when my parents were in and the dog didn't go near him. Even when we were play fighting the dog would go mad and do anything possible to stop it.

Also we've found that a harness works best with boxers because you have so much more control over them. They are very strong dogs and when they pull they'll easily take you with them but the harness really does help.
 
~J~ said:
Fair point I guess for which I apologise. I often dip my wick in the local whorehouse and as yet haven't received any STD's. I guess it depends on the woman really and shouldn't generalise that the best form of a cure is prevention.

That is a completely irrelevant and moronic argument. However, a more appropriate response would be; would you avoid coitus with your own spouse or significant other on the possibility of contracting HIV from him/her, despite them having been tested in the previous year?

~J~ said:
Barn door. Bolt. Horse. Too late. Er, ok, simple terms. Man A has dog on lead. Dog see's cat, dog chases cat, dog can't because it's on lead. Man B has dog on lead. Dog sees cat, dog chases cat, dog eats cat, cats owner tells off Man B and says Dog should be on lead. Thus Man A + Dog + Lead = Happy, Man B + dog - Lead = Sad.

Yes, I know what you were trying to say. It was badly phrased and well, utter nonsense.

~J~ said:
Bold sentance highlighted for purpose of highlighting what you've said. So you admit there's a possible concern?

Nope, there isn’t… I’ve never broken the law with my dog. I’m sure the police would have stopped me by now if it were the case. After all, they’ve driven past me many times and even petted my dog on several, none-consecutive occasions. AND SHE WASN’T ON A LEAD!

~J~ said:
Are you really prepared to take the risk? Doggie Russian Roulette?

About the same level of risk you face from electrocution by using your computer’s keyboard or killing a pedestrian by listening to the radio as you drive. Do you write headlines for the Daily Mail, by any chance?

~J~ said:
Tell me, does this very attitude you have give you the right to put other drivers in danger when they see a dog walking at the edge of the road and have to slow down because they can't forsee what will happen?

That has never happened to the best of my knowledge. You see, my parents live in Oxfordshire, not Paranoidsville.

~J~ said:
Is this very attitude you have that things "might happen", that your "chances" are slim really warrent you to be branded as a responsible owner?

Again, what the hell are you talking about?

~J~ said:
Time to get cocks on the table here. Yes I HAVE actually been through this which is why I can see 'almost' both sides to it. Yes I was 'threatened' on a daily occurance when I took my dog for a walk by an owner with a dalmation who had no control whatsoever on her dog. NO the dog did not attack, NO the dog wasn't on a lead and YES each and every time the pathetic "o she's ok, she doesn't bite" BS was sprouted.

I’m sorry you suffered from that experience.That is surely a prime example of an errant dog that possibly should have been restrained. Although, you must appreciate that very few people have shared your experience, and thus your sentiment is ever so slightly sensationlised.

I value personal responsibility over the nanny state. If my dog posed a problem to people, then I would deal with it accordingly. As it stands, this isn't the case... That is why the law regarding dogs isn’t enforced as draconically as you would suggest (or hope from the looks of things).

~J~ said:
Yes I reported it to the police and Yes they informed me that I only need to feel threatened for action to be taken. Several months later the dog was destroyed, put down, put to sleep, went to the big kennel in the sky and I felt relief in been able to walk my dog without fear in MY park.

Did it make you feel like the big man?

~J~ said:
So please, not only learn to spell the word "sanctimonious" correctly, but reserve judgement on people before you give sentance.

Sanctimoniousness. So what’s your point? If you’re really petty enough to point out (none-existent) flaws in my spelling, let’s not mention yours’, eh? Anyway, no character assassination occurred on my part. I wasn’t saying that you have a propensity to condescend people, but your, ahem, legal advice and subsequent attempts to patronise me were a bit too much to stomach. I don’t need it; I live with trainee Barrister, FFS! He could patronise concerning law for England! Anyway, welcome to my ignore list. You’ve earned it! :)

I’d like to reaffirm an earlier statement. One has far more to fear from the direct negligence, malevolence and pure stupidity of humans than a mere dog.
 
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having a flick through the posts and ignoring the ones of ppl just having a pop.

i can see where the woman in the park is coming from, but being a dog lover and having had dogs round all my life. i have had a dog that has been nasty period, our latest one a springer spaniel is just plain stupid and bouncy and gets over excited never bitten just runs into things and bounced off stuff.

when my nephews come round i am on guard not of the fact he will attack them but knock them over whilst playing cause he has no sense no feeling.

but with the news reports from which some dogs have got a bad rep and in some causes thats what they are breed for in certain areas.

to tbh i wouldnt worry about it too much just follow your complaint up to the council and find another park.
 
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