Dogs off a leash in parks

All dogs are chipped so they're traceable, not DNA though that's not going to happen. We haven't managed to train humans to put their own rubbish in the bins provided or make that traceable which is a far worse problem so tracing dog **** isn't happening ;)

Sadly there's lots of things crap dog owners do that irritate other dog owners, hanging full dog poo bags from trees is definitely up there.

No. Wrong. All dogs SHOULD be chipped but aren't.
 
I think you should have to have a licence or register it to have a dog. You'd have to have the dog chipped and DNA tested at the owners expenses. Any mess found could then be DNA checked and the owners fined. No idea how feasible this would be!

Leads for all dogs in public is probably a good idea too, unfortunately this would be detrimental to the well behaved dogs out there. It's probably the poop that's getting done while dogs are off the lead that's not getting picked up, when the owner can't find it.

Often in the New forest I'll se bags of mess hung up in trees, sometimes I guess people will collect it on the way back from there walk. But quite often it'll be stuck up there for weeks, it which case it would have been better if they'd just left it on the ground to decompose, without the plastic bag.

Dogs have to be chipped by law anyway, but i think that's more of a case of being able to identify the owner should the dog get loose and run away etc. I wouldn't object to a DNA register, i find it absolutely disgusting the way some dog owners will refuse to pick their dogs poo up, or just as bad, hang it in a tree. Yes it's not a pleasant experience having to pick up and carry a bag of streamy ****, but if you don't want to do that, then don't have a dog. You wouldn't leave baby nappies lying around etc.

Are there any REALLY REALLY long leashes to allow the dog to run for 10s (hundred?) of meteres? and the owner could press a button to stop them or reel them in at the press of a button?

I've seen training leads that are tens of meters, these are normally fixed leads rather than retractable (would need one hell of a drum) - hundreds of meters starts to become unpractical, not to mention the vast amount of space you'd need to stop the dog going around trees etc.

We've got a retractable 10m lead for our little dog, which gives him plenty of slack to run around quite freely, if you run with him then even more slack. Unfortunately it's a bit of a conundrum for big dogs - anything over 25-30Kgs wouldn't even get up to full speed in 10 meters. So they'd never in effect get to fully stretch their legs on a lead.

My previous OH had dogs, the oldest of which was a large border collie around 9 years old. Soppiest thing you'd ever met. I'd known him for around 5 years. Quiet, non-aggressive and obedient. Never had issues, or any interest at all, with other dogs. Took them for a walk one day at a usual haunt. He looks up, sees a dog around 150 meters away, and took off like a rocket. No amount of calling etc stopped him and he went piling into the target dog and started trying to rip it apart. The moment he took off we knew something was wrong and started running. Because of the distance it took us quite a while to get to the incident, by which time the other dogs owners were unsurprisingly exhausted with trying to separate the dogs. Collectively, we eventually separated them. Lots of tears from the women, anger from the men. All the while my OH is saying " he wouldn't hurt anyone", and I'm thinking, what if it had been a kid. He lived almost another 6 years and never exhibited behaviour anything like that again. Bizarre

The point I'm trying to make is that even the most socialised, calm and obedient dogs can do the unexpected

Yep good example, as you say a 15 year lifespan and one incident where he/she could have fatally killed another dog. I don't think humans understand enough about dog behaviours to know what can suddenly make then change to erratic behaviour. If that was a human, you'd be diagnosed with bipolar/schizophrenia etc, and you'd probably get sectioned for it.
 
I can also Google plenty of sources that state rottweilers need social integration from an early age otherwise they are aggressive to everyone apart from their owners.
The part about the owners is just bad ownership and poor control. The rest of that is true for every single dog out there, regardless of breed.
If you Google, you'll often find (depending on source) that Labradors and Collies bite more often that Rottweilers, yet the latter get a pass because they're such good shepherds, and the former we actually put under the control of blind people!!

So I disagree that they are fine and completely docile.
No-one ever said completely docile.
They are very dominant, which is often misinterpreted as aggression, but that's another human failing.

They were bred to pull carts full of meat for butchers. They are massive, heavy extremely strong and aggressive. Make gr at guard dogs and without proper integration and training are killers.
The last thing you'd ever do with any aggressive animal is entrust it to pull cart-loads of the wares you depend upon for your livelihood... Guess they're really not naturally as aggressive as you seem to think. Funny how you're not saying the same about Entlebuchers or GSMDs, since they also had the same role.
 
I have two dogs, both border terriers - both of which will come off the lead in open spaces, and both can get excitable. They don't **** on every piece of greenery in sight, and when they do, it gets bagged and binned.

Public spaces, unless stated otherwise, are for everyone to enjoy - why should children/adults have priority over dogs, when there are no restrictions in place? And most kids that see our dogs, love them - possibly because they haven't been coddled, and have been exposed to the realities of public spaces and whatnot.

Seems like a lot of the negativity in this thread, stems from the environment - maybe living in a scummy area surrounded by ne'er-do-wells, won't give you the best impression of a dog/owner - as not all dog owners are irresponsible idiots,
 
No. Wrong. All dogs SHOULD be chipped but aren't.

Oh good grief.

No. Wrong. All dogs MUST be chipped*

By law all dogs must be chipped by 8 weeks old. Some owners (yes, the naughty ones :eek: ) don't get them chipped.

This might come as a shock to you but some people break the law, some even say naughty words.....








*doesn't mean they are ;)
 
Why don't dog owners put paper under the dogs bum when they poo?

You have no chance in hell of getting it off the grass with out water.
 
Oh good grief.

No. Wrong. All dogs MUST be chipped*

By law all dogs must be chipped by 8 weeks old. Some owners (yes, the naughty ones :eek: ) don't get them chipped.

This might come as a shock to you but some people break the law, some even say naughty words.....








*doesn't mean they are ;)

That was literally my point...
 
Two of my children are very scared of dogs all because over the few years they have been here they have had dogs jump up on them when playing in a field/park. One dog looked very angry and if I didn't kick the thing it probably would have bitten. I was then abused by the owner of the dog which I told them to put it on a lead. The abuse I was given was absurd in front of my kids as well with f's and the c word! This was a couple as well, horrible people.

Keep in mind my children where ages 4 and 6 I mean some people?

The amount of people I have seen not pick up there dog poo as well is crazy. I once stopped and told someone to pick up his dogs enormous turd and was hurled abuse as well!
 
One dog looked very angry and if I didn't kick the thing it probably would have bitten.

If you kick someone's dog because it looks angry then more often than not you're going to get some kind of retaliation from the owner as rationality goes out the window. If it's something you can see yourself doing again then I hope you can handle yourself. It could have gone much worse in front of your kids, as some people of that ilk (****** and blinding in front of young children) wouldn't think twice about thumping you back.

There are millions of dogs in the UK and attacks in public are rare. It's much more likely to occur within the household when moron parents leave dogs alone with kids.
 
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Why don't dog owners put paper under the dogs bum when they poo?
Why do people complain specifically about dog poo so much, when the local fields, roads and walkways are peppered with poos from the likes of cats, horses, rabbits, deer, foxes, badgers and in some cases even cows and sheep?
 
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