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tang0 said:
Yeh and, am I not allowed an opinion? There’s too much BS there to dismiss as nothing harmless going on.
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Pizzagate is without question one of the most compelling and evidence supported conspiracy theories ever proposed.
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Pretty strong opinion you have that funnyily has no credible evidence to support it.

In fact by definition, it's not an opinion....
a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
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So is it an opinion or a fact? Either doesn't paint your critical thinking in good light.
 
How is it that a discussion started on Trump's impeachment inevitably ends up at Hilary Clinton's doorstep? If every single one of the conspiracy theories surrounding her were true, it wouldn't excuse Trump's behaviour. He deserves to be removed from office as he considers himself above the law. Only yesterday he was tweeting links revealing the whistleblowers identity, he just can't help himself.
 
This thread is a huge manget for OcUK Trump supporters, most of which are banned from SC. The thread is a vehicle for them to peddle their distractions and 'but Hilary' nonsense.
 
tang0 said:
Also amazes me why you blindly believe that every Democrat is beyond reproach and are so squeeky clean, there’s zero thought given that they couldn’t possibly be involved in corruption
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The same could be said about you and Trump. Its amazing how you blindly believe Trump is beyond reproach and you act like Trump is squeaky clean with zero thought about the corruption, fraud, immoral behaviour and dishonesty that Trump is involved in. Pointing to what the Democrats are doing doesn't make what Trump is doing acceptable or ok. Its like you only care about corruption when it involves the Democrats as when Trump does it you get so closed minded and blind to the truth. Its generally unbelievable that you think Trump is remotely ok. You are a classic case of being brained washed by the Elite. You don't even seem bothered or to care by Trumps connections with Epstein’s or Trump corruption stealing vast sums of charity money as you only care if it involves the Democrats.

Trump doesn't care about stamping out corruption. All he cares about is creating corruption and profiting from it. Its as clear as day if you just take your blinkers off.
 
I'm not a Trump apologist, show me clear evidence of corruption and I'll believe it. But so far we've had years of spying, media have tried to dig up dirt, a two year investigation where Mueller looked through all his financial records and everything he's ever done and they didn't find anything.

To me it's clear as day that what the Democrats are doing is accusing him of the crimes they've committed. The Mueller nonsense was part coverup/fishing expedition in the hope they'd find something to bring him down with. Now all they've got left with is this impeachment nonsense based on no crimes just a vague "abuse of power" charge, now they're scared they have no leverage going into the Senate against what Trump is sitting on, hence the delay

Pottsey said:
You are a classic case of being brained washed by the Elite
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The most ironic thing I've ever read, you literally believe everything the political elite says. Trump is outside of the elite hence why they hate his guts, and I'm the brainwashed one?

You believe all Democrats are beyond reproach
You believe Giuliani shouldn't be trusted because he's investigating a Democrat
You believe Trump is a Russian asset/puppet
You believe that it was fine for the FBI to allow a 3rd party company to conclude the Russians hacked the DNC
You believe as soon as the media says something is a "debunked conspiracy" you believe them

I can go on

How can you not see the stupidity of what you just said
 
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VincentHanna said:
Yeah, that millionaire/"billionaire" property developer is definitely not part of the elite....:rolleyes:
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Clearly he was on about the political elite establishment, I shouldn't need to explain that Trump is obviously not in that club.

Trump is the antithesis of the political elite
 
tang0 said:
“I'm not a Trump apologist, show me clear evidence of corruption and I'll believe it.”
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I did, like the time he setup a charity and corruptly used it as his personal bank account channelling the charity money into his pockets and business instead of what the charity was for. Trump then lied saying 100% of money went to charity while he was splashing it out on himself and his family. That’s pure corruption. Or how about the time he cheated on his wife multiple times and channelled money though his fixit man to pay people to keep it secrete? Or the time Trump setup a fake university and scammed lots of people out of lots of money.

I even listed what he did with the money which was proven at the supreme court. You had the clear evidence but you put blinkers on every time anyone shows you clear evidence against Trump.



tang0 said:
“The most ironic thing I've ever read, you literally believe everything the political elite says. Trump is outside of the elite hence why they hate his guts, and I'm the brainwashed one”
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It’s not ironic Trump is part of the Elite and you have been foolishly been brainwashed to think he is not. The billionaire Trump family have vast sums of real estate. Full or partial ownership in over 500 companies in the US alone and more outside the US. The Trump family have been prominent in the fields of real estate, entertainment, and politics. The 3 big areas that members of the Elite are in. The Trump's are as Elite as they come going to the same groups, parties and events as the other Elites. How can you call them anything other than a member of the Elite? Just look at Trumps connections with Epstein or the other people the Trump's hang around.

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Trump was even a member of the Democrats donating large sums of money to the Democrats and hanging out with the other Elite Democrats.


tang0 said:
“You believe all Democrats are beyond reproach”
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Please explain how I believe the democrats are beyond reproach when I stated I don’t support or like the democrats and the hammer should come down on any proven corruption by them the same as for Trumps corruption.

As for Giuliani not being trusted that a lie from you. The reason I don't trust him has nothing to do with investigating a Democrat. I don’t trust Giuliani because he appears to have commented a number of crimes along with corruption on behalf of Trump. Like when he paid people off in secrete for Trump. Giuliani seems to be a member of the swamp that's why I don't trust him.



tang0 said:
“You believe Trump is a Russian asset/puppet
You believe that it was fine for the FBI to allow a 3rd party company to conclude the Russians hacked the DNC
You believe as soon as the media says something is a "debunked conspiracy" you believe them”
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Sure go into full on TDS mode. You have just proven how dishonest you are by flat out lying and making things up without any basis of fact or evidence.
 
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Are there any Democrats involved in Trump's impeachment who don't have family members on the boards of Ukrainian energy companies? it's no wonder Biden threatened to withhold $1billion unless the Ukraine prosecutor investigating dodgy dealings involving one of the companies got fired. The prosecutor could have probably taken down half of the Democrat leadership.

Pelosi's son was just holding important meetings with the Ukraine government and bankers over a youth soccer programme, honest.
 
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mmj_uk said:
Are there any Democrats involved in Trump's impeachment who don't have family members on the boards of Ukrainian energy companies? it's no wonder Biden threatened to withhold $1billion unless the Ukraine prosecutor investigating dodgy dealings involving one of the companies got fired. The prosecutor could have probably taken down half of the Democrat leadership.

Pelosi's son was just holding important meetings with the Ukraine government and bankers over a youth soccer programme, honest.
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How many times do we have to tell you about the ex-prosecutor.

You are the perfect mark for a conspiracy, tell a lie often enough and some mug will believe it.
 
mmj_uk said:
Are there any Democrats involved in Trump's impeachment who don't have family members on the boards of Ukrainian energy companies? it's no wonder Biden threatened to withhold $1billion unless the Ukraine prosecutor investigating dodgy dealings involving one of the companies got fired. The prosecutor could have probably taken down half of the Democrat leadership.

Pelosi's son was just holding important meetings with the Ukraine government and bankers over a youth soccer programme, honest.
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You mean like when Trumps son was holding a meeting with the Russians about adoption of Russian children, honest.

Why is it you think the Democrats have done something and want to throw the hammer down on them but when Trump does the same thing you turn a blend eye and act like nothing happened. I can only imagine how your head would explode if Trump swapped back to being a Democrat as he isn't a real republican and has a history of swapping.

Why do you see it as wrong for the Democrats but acceptable for Trump? It should be wrong for both.
 
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