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Much like with #metoo the DemocRats are suddenly quiet about Quid Pro Quo's when it's their man accused with a stronger case against him.


The Ukrainian president couldn't find any evidence that the prosecutor involved in investigating Biden's sons' company was corrupt so by the sound of it he effectively begged him to resign for the good of the country because Biden wanted him fired and wouldn't give them the $1b otherwise. Oh and the corruption investigation into his sons' company was conveniently stopped.

Gosh, you really ought to do some research into things before you post-and-run here, because you just turn yourself into an utter embarrassment. The full article on this says that these recordings have been "heavily edited" so yeah, how authentic do you think that they are? It's been published by an ally of Guiliani, who, let's face it, is practically Ukrainian himself. Yeah, it must be a Democrat conspiracy though! Anyway, this is a thread about Trump, not Biden. If you want to discuss him, why not start a new thread?
 
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There is this too -

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcript...ne-to-prevent-coronavirus-in-press-conference

Media:
Can you explain, sir, though, what is the evidence that it has a preventative effect?

Donald Trump:
Here we go, you ready? Here’s my evidence. I get a lot of positive calls about it. The only negative I’ve heard was the study where they gave it, was it the VA? With people that aren’t big Trump fans gave it. And we’ve done the greatest job, maybe of anything in the VA, because I got VA Choice and VA Accountability both approved. Accountability, Tillman, is where you can fire bad people that work in the VA that you couldn’t fire them. We had thousands of people that were sadists, that were stealing, that were robbers, that were horrible people. They’d beat up our veterans. They couldn’t do it in primetime, but they did it when they were sick. And we got accountability. Nobody thought you could get it because of the unions and civil service. I got it passed so that now you fire bad people in the VA. We got rid of tremendously bad people that should never been there.




 
Much like with #metoo the DemocRats are suddenly quiet about Quid Pro Quo's when it's their man accused with a stronger case against him.


The Ukrainian president couldn't find any evidence that the prosecutor involved in investigating Biden's sons' company was corrupt so by the sound of it he effectively begged him to resign for the good of the country because Biden wanted him fired and wouldn't give them the $1b otherwise. Oh and the corruption investigation into his sons' company was conveniently stopped.
Yea, but no, must try harder...
So Biden leaned hard on Ukraine, even threatening to withhold U.S. aid unless Ukraine fired Shokin. Republicans have since tried to reframe Biden’s pressure on Ukraine as some kind of scandal. In fact, it was a completely above-board exercise in diplomacy. Biden was supporting the pro-reform agenda that was shared by Western allies and pro-democracy nongovernmental organizations.
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Yesterday, Derkach released a recording of Biden talking to Ukraine’s then-president about the firing of Shokin. The video has absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden. It in fact depicts Biden discussing the pro-reform work he carried out openly and (rightly) boasted about as a foreign-policy success. Still, the existence of a new recording was enough for Trump’s messaging apparatus to suggest it indicated some form of wrongdoing:
I have to admit though it's pretty funny to see Trump's keyboard warriors taking up a line of attack that ended up with him getting impeached for basically trying to undo a previous foreign policy success, for essentially trying to undo the anti-corruption efforts of western nations and do what Russia had been doing for decades, what had prompted the anti-corruption efforts of western nations in the first place.

I mean if you wanted evidence that Trump was Putin's lapdog then trying to make Ukraine more, not less, corrupt is pretty strong evidence.
 
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Oh dear so hydroxychloroquine patients are more likely to die in 96k hospitalised study.

For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 percent increase in risk of mortality and a 137 percent increased risk of a serious heart arrhythmias. For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic — the cocktail endorsed by Trump — there was a 45 percent increased risk of death and a 411 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

Those given chloroquine had a 37 percent increased risk of death and a 256 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias. For those taking chloroquine and an antibiotic, there was a 37 percent increased risk of death and a 301 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/22/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-study/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext
 
Gosh, you really ought to do some research into things before you post-and-run here, because you just turn yourself into an utter embarrassment. The full article on this says that these recordings have been "heavily edited" so yeah, how authentic do you think that they are? It's been published by an ally of Guiliani, who, let's face it, is practically Ukrainian himself. Yeah, it must be a Democrat conspiracy though! Anyway, this is a thread about Trump, not Biden. If you want to discuss him, why not start a new thread?
You are wasting your time expending any sort of energy on him. He just posts and runs like a little girl that he is. He’s not man enough to come back and argue his viewpoints. That is pathetic and sad for an adult to behave in such a way....wait that’s exactly what his orange leader does so he will do the exact same lol.

At least with tang0 and deuse, they will post but will also come back to answer any replies to our amusement. But I give them credit for doing that. But mmj is the worst post and run type that I have seen for a very long time.
 
You are wasting your time expending any sort of energy on him. He just posts and runs like a little girl that he is. He’s not man enough to come back and argue his viewpoints. That is pathetic and sad for an adult to behave in such a way....wait that’s exactly what his orange leader does so he will do the exact same lol.

I know. I've put them, tang0 and plasmahal on ignore because I'm bored of seeing their hopeless contributions to this thread. If they actually engaged in meaningful debate then I'd be ok, but they just totally ignore anything constructive that's posted, or dodge around it. It's rather pathetic.
 
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You are wasting your time expending any sort of energy on him.
I wish that were true but they're basically using Nazi propaganda techniques so someone has to at least attempt to rebut what they're doing.

And before anyone claims I'm calling them Nazis I'm not, I'm saying they're using, whether consciously or not, a combination of the Big Lie logically fallacy and the illusory truth effect, also know as tell a lie so big that nobody considers someone would lie about such a thing, and repeat a lie often enough and people start to believe it.
 
I wish that were true but they're basically using Nazi propaganda techniques so someone has to at least attempt to rebut what they're doing.

And before anyone claims I'm calling them Nazis I'm not, I'm saying they're using, whether consciously or not, a combination of the Big Lie logically fallacy and the illusory truth effect, also know as tell a lie so big that nobody considers someone would lie about such a thing, and repeat a lie often enough and people start to believe it.

Such a sad state of affairs, people being constantly manipulated and deceived.
 
I reckon the real reason why Trump wont wear a mask period never mind just in public is it will rub the spray tan off his face and he is worried it will look like he melting orange paint. LoL
 
I wish that were true but they're basically using Nazi propaganda techniques so someone has to at least attempt to rebut what they're doing.

And before anyone claims I'm calling them Nazis I'm not, I'm saying they're using, whether consciously or not, a combination of the Big Lie logically fallacy and the illusory truth effect, also know as tell a lie so big that nobody considers someone would lie about such a thing, and repeat a lie often enough and people start to believe it.


Yep, this.

If you stop countering their BS they'll consider it a win and you'll become a statistic for them to brag about on their forums full of like minded idiots.
 

This is a real humdinger, let’s test this drug on human beings based on a conspiracy theory rather than actual science - it’s OK these veterans get free healthcare so there is no need to treat them with any dignity.
 
This is a real humdinger, let’s test this drug on human beings based on a conspiracy theory rather than actual science - it’s OK these veterans get free healthcare so there is no need to treat them with any dignity.
Don't forget "and we in the Republican party, especially the supreme and gloriously illustrious Trump love the armed forces, for no one has ever done more for them than he! may the orange spray tan be upon him".
 
Don't forget "and we in the Republican party, especially the supreme and gloriously illustrious Trump love the armed forces, for no one has ever done more for them than he! may the orange spray tan be upon him".

Yeah Trump talks a good game but when it came to step up like McCain did, Trump got bone spurs, then has the cheek to ridicule McCain after his death. Trump is a weak child.
 
Yeah Trump talks a good game but when it came to step up like McCain did, Trump got bone spurs, then has the cheek to ridicule McCain after his death. Trump is a weak child.

Trump most certainly DOES NOT talk a good game in any sense of the term.
 
And so he should be, he’s handled this whole thing terribly. In fact anything he has handled in the 4 yrs since he’s taken the office, can be described as terrible.

Can only hope the American people are energised enough now to go out and vote him out.
 
Joe Biden: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or for Donald Trump, then you ain’t black”

Translation: If you vote for Trump you're a race traitor because record black employment (achieved by Trump prior to pandemic shutdown) is not something you should be aspiring to. We'll give you welfare and keep you poor instead and you'll love us for it, know your place.

The left aren't racist but they always seem to bring race into everything, funnily. Joe Biden is pretty much everything the left have been accusing Trump of for the last 4 years, it's mind boggling that anti-Trumpers are all now defending Biden after 4 years of claiming to be morally superior whenever Trump was (nearly always falsely) accused by them of something. Absolutely mind boggling what Trump Derangement Syndrome has done to people the Democrats could probably nominate Hannibal Lecter at this point and he'd get votes if it meant potentially throwing Trump out of office.
 
Joe Biden: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or for Donald Trump, then you ain’t black”

Translation: If you vote for Trump you're a race traitor because record black employment (achieved by Trump prior to pandemic shutdown) is not something you should be aspiring to. We'll give you welfare and keep you poor instead and you'll love us for it, know your place.

The left aren't racist but they always seem to bring race into everything, funnily. Joe Biden is pretty much everything the left have been accusing Trump of for the last 4 years, it's mind boggling that anti-Trumpers are all now defending Biden after 4 years of claiming to be morally superior whenever Trump was (nearly always falsely) accused by them of something. Absolutely mind boggling what Trump Derangement Syndrome has done to people the Democrats could probably nominate Hannibal Lecter at this point and he'd get votes if it meant potentially throwing Trump out of office.
I knew you’d be coming in here with that. I don’t remember you coming in here when it was Trump doing it
 
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