Done For Speeding

BenST · 10 May 2007 at 17:58

Bug One said:
1 thing. If I get banned for 20 odd days, does that mean it doesn't effect my insurance. Ie I will have no points?

You'll still have to declaire that you have had a ban which will increase your premium.

Lopéz · 10 May 2007 at 17:58

Vertigo1 said:
Says who?

Says the magistrates who didn't ban me

Scania · 10 May 2007 at 18:08

Lopéz said:
Says the magistrates who didn't ban me

Having asked my Dad, who's a Magistrate, he thinks you were not given correct advice there.......

I'd check with your insurers, otherwise, should you need to make a claim in the future,and you hav'nt declared the conviction, you won't get paid out.

Lopéz · 10 May 2007 at 18:14

R124/LA420 said:
Having asked my Dad, who's a Magistrate, he thinks you were not given correct advice there.......

I'd check with your insurers, otherwise, should you need to make a claim in the future,and you hav'nt declared the conviction, you won't get paid out.

I think you've got your crossed wires there mate, I was convicted and declared it to my insurers? :confused:

I didn't get a ban I had 6 points.

I was quoting Vertigo1 who said that asking the court to take into account needing your car for your job wouldn't get you anywhere....

DRZ · 10 May 2007 at 18:14

R124/LA420 said:
Having asked my Dad, who's a Magistrate, he thinks you were not given correct advice there.......

I'd check with your insurers, otherwise, should you need to make a claim in the future,and you hav'nt declared the conviction, you won't get paid out.

What on earth are you talking about? Where did Lopez say that?

EDIT: Beaten like a ginger stepchild

atpbx · 10 May 2007 at 18:26

Cant say I've any sympathy.
Anything over a Ton no matter where you are, you need to be costantly checking your mirrors every few seconds and ready to scrub off speed ASAP, not just to avoid getting caught, but for just for general safety.
I've seen the filth on the road when I've been tanking along and if anything I'm approaching from behind or is coming up behind me looks wrong i back off.

Keep yours eyes open.

Cyber-Mav · 10 May 2007 at 18:32

tell them u have to use the car to go to work otherwise you will just sit at home and rinse the government for cash. i bet they don;t ban you. and i know that for a fact because there are 2 people i know who have pulled this before and one guy has 14 points on his licence and the other guy has 17 :eek:

points on his licence.

yes i know what your gonna say anything hitting 12 points is a ban but not, if you go to court you can make up blag and they will fine you and issue you with silly number of points so you get rinsed on insurance.

but yes i do know 2 people who have has 14 and 17 points on thier licence and not been banned. went with one of the guys today actually to a local pc shop for parts, he got 14 points and guess what, hes a white ford transit van driver :rolleyes:

Morba · 10 May 2007 at 18:38

MrLOL said:
All wrong

why does the same rubbish come out whenever we have one of these threads ? Lopez has already posted time and time again about how he managed to evade a driving ban doing a ton on the motorway. He brought a signed letter from his employer stating that if he was to loose his license, he would loose his job.
...

ah yes, lopez gets off from doing 100mph+ every week, so that he can keep us updated on whether or not giving a letter from your employer will get you off from a ban!

Scania · 10 May 2007 at 19:00

Lopéz said:
I think you've got your crossed wires there mate, I was convicted and declared it to my insurers? I didn't get a ban I had 6 points.

I was quoting Vertigo1 who said that asking the court to take into account needing your car for your job wouldn't get you anywhere....

Sorry I was well crossed. - Only trying to help.

Must learn to read the bloody thread properly!

I'll shut up & crawl back under my stone.

Dashik · 10 May 2007 at 19:11

MrLOL said:
a largely pointless comment considering the laws governing our roads were drawn up years ago, based upon the cars that were being driven at the time

Since then technology has improved, and driving at 100 on an empty motorway is no more dangerous in a modern well maintained car than doing 70 on a busy motorway.

The laws regarding theft are based upon moral principles which havent changed.

Theres a big difference.

Cars may have improved but human's have not improved considerably that I have noticed.

Theres no difference if somebody decides to selectively chose which laws you decide to obey due to there conveniene to you and which to ignore. Both are wrong on moral grounds.

Dashik · 10 May 2007 at 19:17

MrLOL said:
doesnt matter if your doing 70 or 100, your still in big trouble.

Seriously not true. If you hit something at 100 you are in a whole new ballgame re injury and death etc.. So dont be daft trying to justify speeding by implying there is no additional risk in the event of an accident. Faster you drive the bigger the injuries if you stop suddenly.

Dashik · 10 May 2007 at 19:17

Replicant said:
I know its a stupid question but i just wanna be sure:

Will speeding on a bike also mean you are bannedd from driving a car too, since a bike is simply a category on your overall licence isn't it

Yes.

Kitchster_uk · 10 May 2007 at 22:55

Wasn't going to comment but I feel the need...

I drive 60 miles to work and back every day (30 there, 30 back). It's a strange journey, some urban, some rural, some sub-urban driving. I speed in some parts, pass on single carriageway backroads where I know it's safe and in other parts I drive to the limit or below, dependant upon whre I am. I've been doing this for 7 months without incident from my sped, however, the shocking states of other driving I see beggar belief. I almost wiped out a dumb bint in a brand new 911 a few weeks back The roundabout we came to you go straight ahead in the right hand lane and turn left in the left lane, clearly marked and sign-posted. She swings right across the roundabout, nearly takes the front end of my car off and then shoots me the evils. I know she drives this route every day as I normally catch her up dawdling along at 35 in a 60 and pass her.

104 is pretty fast but not over-excessive in the conditions (depending on the car etc) - why is everyone so worked up about it??? I obey just about every other bleeding law, down to paying extortionate levels of tax, insuring my car, buying a TV licence etc. Average Joe Scroat spends his life stealing from me and gets a slap on the wrist because he knows how to play the court system - it's his job. Why shouldn't the OP play the big puppy-dog eyes, tear in one corner..."bbb bbb but your honour....who will feed tiny Tim if I can't work...? We'll be in the poor house if I lose my licence..."

I would say the vast majority of us here play it straight and legal. We may come close to the line occasionally but there is no criminal malace or intent to deprive. Give the OP a break - even the copper in a Vectra dong 150mph didn't get this level of grief because..."that's legal..." I'll leave you with a biblical thought for hose having a go at the OP. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

beast20vt · 10 May 2007 at 23:02

adapt said:
Why, if the road is empty and you are finding yourself in a position that your by the side of someone who clearly is able to get into the correct lane why does that make me the plonker. Im not saying I was traveling at 100+ if you read the rest of my post. I could be doing 82 and be in the position to overtake.

i was merely stating that you were calling the guy a plonker for doing 80mph in the middle lane but you were obviously doing more than 80mph if you had to overtake him.fair enough middle lane hogs are a pain in the arse but there's not much you can do about them and calling one person names for breaking one law then breaking another yourself is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.

on the 100mph on a clear motorway being safe-99% of the time it is unless you have a blowout but having one at 70mph is bad enough.also i never said it wasnt safe i said it was illegal.

adapt · 11 May 2007 at 00:14

beast20vt said:
i was merely stating that you were calling the guy a plonker for doing 80mph in the middle lane but you were obviously doing more than 80mph if you had to overtake him.fair enough middle lane hogs are a pain in the arse but there's not much you can do about them and calling one person names for breaking one law then breaking another yourself is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.

on the 100mph on a clear motorway being safe-99% of the time it is unless you have a blowout but having one at 70mph is bad enough.also i never said it wasn't safe i said it was illegal.

Well at the end of the day the guy is causing a hazard, he isn't braking any laws staying in the middle lane but its a serious enough hazard that every now and again they put the warning signs on the motorway to advise not to hog the middle lane. Im certainly not contradicting myself as you suggest as I would like to pass safely and don't see why I have to cross three lanes to do so. This is the reason for naming someone a plonker as he disregards other road users which I do not. I don't see how you can disagree with those facts. As I said I could be traveling at 82 and still have to overtake which im sure you would do the same.

WIBSBOT · 11 May 2007 at 01:29

Kitchster_uk said:
Why shouldn't the OP play the big puppy-dog eyes, tear in one corner..."bbb bbb but your honour....who will feed tiny Tim if I can't work...? We'll be in the poor house if I lose my licence..."

Self-respect and dignity ?

Doesn't seem to be much of it around these days but the OP sounds like a decent bloke.

Durzel · 11 May 2007 at 01:34

Dashik said:
Seriously not true. If you hit something at 100 you are in a whole new ballgame re injury and death etc.. So dont be daft trying to justify speeding by implying there is no additional risk in the event of an accident. Faster you drive the bigger the injuries if you stop suddenly.

Pretty sure if you hit a solid object at 70 you're dead. 100+ is just a more gorier version.

djcj · 11 May 2007 at 02:41

Well i drove home today at a steady 69mph right the way down the motorway and got home about 8 minutes later then i normally do, which makes me feel a bit stupid and a little annoyed at how pointless the speeding was. Still bricking it about the possible ban though. Still haven't took my licence to the police station either, i've got till wednesday night but i'm just a bit nervous about the whole thing.

If only the clocks could be turned back....

Durzel · 11 May 2007 at 02:51

djcj said:
Well i drove home today at a steady 69mph right the way down the motorway and got home about 8 minutes later then i normally do, which makes me feel a bit stupid and a little annoyed at how pointless the speeding was. Still bricking it about the possible ban though. Still haven't took my licence to the police station either, i've got till wednesday night but i'm just a bit nervous about the whole thing.

If only the clocks could be turned back....

I don't want to sound pessimistic but everyone says that when they get caught. It's like when people hear about an accident or something, suddenly they're all "well you won't catch me speeding again"... rubbish. People have very short memories and it doesn't take long to forget about these events and get back to driving the way they always have.

Not directing that observation at you, I'm just speaking in generalities (which includes myself!)

silversurfer · 11 May 2007 at 03:48

30 days and large fine.

Either way it'll be costly because it sounds like you now need to employ a lawyer in the hope of somthing less. Take a long holiday ? the ban will apply from the day of the case being seen