Caporegime
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Plus a car cabin is the wrong size / shape and too loud on the move to be that bothered about slightly better SQ from a cable.
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Double DIN head units
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[TW]Fox;19952733 said:
I guess in essence, you want to make sure though that you aren't putting in a grands worth of satnav. If you want the audio to match, or to be of an impressionable quality, you'd want to spend another grand at least on speakers, amp, sub, etc.
When I was noticably bothered about ICE, I spent near on £500 on a direct source Pioneer headunit, and way more on speakers and amplification.
I would want to you to realise that just changing the headunit is not going to infinitely make the audio sound £900 better.
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Nothing you'd be able to detect without an Oscilloscope though.
[TW]Fox;19952856 said:
Probably shouldn't have started your OP with this then
[TW]Fox;19951540 said:
Seeing as a "proper ICE install" would be as much about sound quality as it would be about aesthetics and infotainment integration.
In a word, yes. Cables are the biggest con in the audiophile industry IMHO.
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Lol, I could stick 20p a metre power cable in your install and you'd notice no difference.
[TW]Fox;19951960 said:
Yes
Likewise, if you just had the music player up, it would default to that.[TW]Fox;19951960 said:
Yes
You can change the position of it (any corner) and the size of it (big or small version).The small version would contain just the track information, whereas the larger one would also show a small picture of the album cover if there is one.
[TW]Fox;19951960 said:
Yes
I had to buy a cable kit from a third-party to get this working due to the way Civics are; the headunit controls a lot of things (apprantely) and so a company had created a kit that allows you to plug-and-play whilst retaining all the dash features such as time / date / air-con display / dash board dim / etc.You may need to buy a similar kit for a BMW, not totally sure.
[TW]Fox;19951960 said:
Afraid so
One of my few annoyances with the unit.[TW]Fox;19951960 said:
Just tested and it's about 4-5 seconds.
[TW]Fox;19951960 said:
I'm not actually sure on this one. I've just tried plugging a USB stick into it but it said it wasn't supported, so I'm not sure what the correct way to set up a USB stick would be (I suspect SD card would be similar).
I usually plug my iPod in, which you would just plug in and you can control it fully on the touch-screen display, go forward/back on tracks on the steering wheel controls (volume control too), or use the remote control that it has also (never used this yet, though
).The manual would probably advise on how to correctly set up a USB Stick or SD Card no doubt.
[TW]Fox;19951960 said:
Whilst the F20BT does look good, it was the Sat Nav. side of it which turned me against it. My first requirement was a good Sat Nav. in the unit, and I've previously had 2 TomTom standalone units which have been fantastic, so when I found out the new Sony ones had built-in TomToms, it was a given for me
That's the major difference between the two if I remember - I couldn't find many other differences. They are both stylish, both have lovely screens, very similar functionality and in fact I would have had the Pioneer if I hadn't have found the Sony ones.
[TW]Fox;19951960 said:
I did look at it, but I just didn't like it - especially compared to the 77BT. You get a smaller screen (6.1" vs 7") and clunky buttons on the side - something I didn't want, which is why I settled on the 77BT and F20BT myself.
The 77BT hides the CD feeder behind the display itself (press a button and it mechanically folds out to reveal it), and the buttons are a lot smaller on the bottom of the unit. I think the only button I actually use is the "Source" one, to flick between Radio/USB/Bluetooth quickly.
I would love to upgrade the speakers and possible get an amp in there, but I had to rip the car apart just to install the 77BT so I don't really want to do it again
Afraid so
That's just because the starter motor is drawing so much current from the battery momentarily, happens in most cars
Afraid so
Should be easily rectifiable by switching the ISO plug connections so the unit has permanent power not just switched voltage. Only issue with this is it might not remember radio stations (Unless you leave that connection wired).
It's nothing to do with that.
really? in the old days, if you wanted your HU to have permanent power (even without the keys in the ignition) you just moved the switched live to permanent feed. That would keep the HU on regardless of what you were doing with the car (starting it, etc). I guess older cars had less draw back then?
Yes, that's (unless I've got the wrong end of the stick, which happens a lot lately) not what Fox is referring to; he asked what the HU does when he starts the engine, i.e. when the starter motor draws as much juice as it can from the battery, leaving not enough for the HU. Much like the lights dimming, if that makes sense.
