Dreams...

[Admiral Huddy]

Shayper, Don't be frightened lad, i was only kidding about walking my plank yesterday

When I have bad dreams, apparently I call out and consciously seem awake but I'm not. It feels like your trapped in the dream and can't get out.

 

[Monkey00]

Learn to lucid dream.... TEH POWAH BECOAM YOARZ!

 

[Freakbro]

I've had some awesome dreams that would make epic films, but alas I never write them down and forgot them.

Yea, same. I have had horrific dreams that have left me shaken for days!

I did dream I was in TOWIE last night though.

Thankfully that is a nightmare I have never had though

 

[King Damager]

Shayper, Don't be frightened lad, i was only kidding about walking my plank yesterday

When I have bad dreams, apparently I call out and consciously seem awake but I'm not. It feels like your trapped in the dream and can't get out.

Oh, I definitely have conversations in my sleep! I'll wake up in the morning and the gf will have talked to me about something at like 2AM. I won't have a clue what she's talking about.

kd

 

[Shayper]

Shayper, Don't be frightened lad, i was only kidding about walking my plank yesterday

When I have bad dreams, apparently I call out and consciously seem awake but I'm not. It feels like your trapped in the dream and can't get out.

Learn to lucid dream.... TEH POWAH BECOAM YOARZ!

As I said, for me it's the opposite. I can take the dream off the rails, I can take it whichever direction that I want, but the dream always turns it bad. I've transferred to a completely different scenario via lucidity, was going well until I walked through an unassuming door and I was back where I originally was. It's kind of difficult to explain, but it's like my subconcious, noticing that my brain is using more activity than it should whilst asleep, is trying to stop the lucid state in order to make sure that my mind rests properly. Is that possible?

 

[Dokinator]

Yeah, you essentially study your dream patterns, identify markers, like for instance when your in your dream, and you see a person, you never really see their face, its always a blur, if you can keep telling yourself "the face is blurry, therefore this must be a dream" or if you read writing on a piece of paper in a dream, most of the time its unreadable, you can identify you are in a dream.

There is loads of different ways you can tell yourself you are dreaming, getting the technique right though takes time.

Once you have mastered it you can start taking control of what you are doing, and alter your dream.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream

Ahh I see, I think I am lucky then as most of the time, weirdly I can actually tell I am in a dream, wether or not I control my actions im not sure. I think I must do.

 

[FutileBreadMachine]

Luckily for me, I don't have nightmares, since danger is actually my trigger that tells me I'm dreaming. Any time I dream about someone chasing me with a sword or shooting me or whatever, I realise it's a dream and I just grab the sword/bullets and kick the "bad guys" away. Annoyingly I can't properly control the dream though, so if I try and imagine some fit bird, I can never see her face properly or the dream just falls apart and it ends. If I do little things it seems to be OK though, like if I just walk into a shop and start eating loads of chocolate the dream lasts for a while.

 

[Dokinator]

Question for all of you really. I can only remember a few dreams well from when I was younger. How many of you have had the same dream more than once?

 

[BloodyL]

I don't have the transition, although I've had it mentioned to me before. I'm awake and then I'm dreaming.

What you are describing is my dreamstate though. I'm always controlling the dream and making the choices, however the dreamstate doesn't really react to that well. Last resort I can wake myself up, but that usually leaves me in a cold sweat, so I try and avoid it.

Then try one one step back, when you are settled and you are ready for sleep even a simple mantra will work wonders, think "I *will* remember my dreams" over and over and eventually it will stop being words and start being a thought pattern that is being imprinted, soon enough you will.

Luckily for me, I don't have nightmares, since danger is actually my trigger that tells me I'm dreaming. Any time I dream about someone chasing me with a sword or shooting me or whatever, I realise it's a dream and I just grab the sword/bullets and kick the "bad guys" away. Annoyingly I can't properly control the dream though, so if I try and imagine some fit bird, I can never see her face properly or the dream just falls apart and it ends. If I do little things it seems to be OK though, like if I just walk into a shop and start eating loads of chocolate the dream lasts for a while.

Dreams are constructs of memories, push the boundaries too far or ask your dream to construct its own actors and it will fall apart, imagine a specific woman.

 

[Shayper]

Bloodyl, is it possible that using the same technique one can ensure that a certain event will happen in a dream?

 

[Monkey00]

As I said, for me it's the opposite. I can take the dream off the rails, I can take it whichever direction that I want, but the dream always turns it bad. I've transferred to a completely different scenario via lucidity, was going well until I walked through an unassuming door and I was back where I originally was. It's kind of difficult to explain, but it's like my subconcious, noticing that my brain is using more activity than it should whilst asleep, is trying to stop the lucid state in order to make sure that my mind rests properly. Is that possible?

No not really, because while your mind does actually need to rest, a lucid dream still only occupies the time that any other dream would, so your mind would get just as much rest, and you've tricked your body into being asleep if you are in a lucid dream so that's not a problem either.

The only thing I can think is that you've got problems/a past, that's causing all this, could be repression or something, but obviously not the place to talk about such things.

How do you know you have so much control over a dream, when you can't control the outcomes and you say you forget? It's almost you're in someone else's dream, Inception-esque, and then the hosts subconscious comes for you lol.

 

[FutileBreadMachine]

Dreams are constructs of memories, push the boundaries too far or ask your dream to construct its own actors and it will fall apart, imagine a specific woman.

Funnily enough, I was just thinking this exact thing. If you have to just "create" a completely original human face from nothing, it's pretty damn difficult and you tend to start imagining someone you've already seen, or mixing up faces trying to think of someone you've never seen, so I think just imagining a face I already know is the way forward.

 

[Monkey00]

Supposedly you only see faces of people you've seen in dreams. Obviously that can be a vast array, but a lot of the time you won't remember the face, but you will remember who it was, as if it's a blank template but your brain overrides the thought process by saying "This is X" and because your brain says so, you believe.

 

[Shayper]

No not really, because while your mind does actually need to rest, a lucid dream still only occupies the time that any other dream would, so your mind would get just as much rest, and you've tricked your body into being asleep if you are in a lucid dream so that's not a problem either.

The only thing I can think is that you've got problems/a past, that's causing all this, could be repression or something, but obviously not the place to talk about such things.

How do you know you have so much control over a dream, when you can't control the outcomes and you say you forget? It's almost you're in someone else's dream, Inception-esque, and then the hosts subconscious comes for you lol.

This is the most accurate description, weirdly enough. It's almost as if the malevolance is based elsewhere and arises from me being unwelcome. A lot of my dreams are based in landscapes that I would not normally imagine.

I can control events, it's not on rails as such but is also defined by my decisions. At least up to a point.

 

[FutileBreadMachine]

Supposedly you only see faces of people you've seen in dreams. Obviously that can be a vast array, but a lot of the time you won't remember the face, but you will remember who it was, as if it's a blank template but your brain overrides the thought process by saying "This is X" and because your brain says so, you believe.

This is true, a lot of the time I can remember someone being in a dream, but I can't remember what they looked like in the dream, I just know it was them. Like say I dreamed I was in a pub and met Jason Statham - in the dream he would be faceless, but my brain would be telling me it was Jason Statham.

 

[Shayper]

Supposedly you only see faces of people you've seen in dreams. Obviously that can be a vast array, but a lot of the time you won't remember the face, but you will remember who it was, as if it's a blank template but your brain overrides the thought process by saying "This is X" and because your brain says so, you believe.

Sometimes it's recognisable faces, but usually I have no idea who the characters are per se.

 

[BloodyL]

Bloodyl, is it possible that using the same technique one can ensure that a certain event will happen in a dream?

I would say not until you a are a veteran lucid dreamer, I've only gotten to the part where without serious psychotropic intoxication I can recognise and mildly adjust a dream, to steer a dream in such a way as to reshape the whole fabric of it would take a lot of practice.

Let's not forget, the purpose of some dreams are subconcious messages to the concious, to reshape such a dream would probably be fruitless, kind of like your doorway that brought you back to the start.

Some dreams are just meant to be.

And please don't take my posts as anything other than a layman who has read up bits and bobs and tried a few things, there are far more knowledgeable people out there.

 

[Shayper]

I would say not until you a are a veteran lucid dreamer, I've only gotten to the part where I can recognise and mildly adjust a dream, to steer a dream in such a way as to reshape the whole fabric of it would take a lot of practice.

Let's not forget, the purpose of some dreams are subconcious messages to the concious, to reshape such a dream would probably be fruitless, kind of like your doorway that brought you back to the start.

Some dreams are just meant to be.

And please don't take my posts as anything other than a layman who has read up bits and bobs and tried a few things, there are far more knowledgeable people out there.

Hmm, I think that I'm just beyond your point.

If I have a dream tonight I'll attempt it and get back to you.

 

[Monkey00]

Sometimes it's recognisable faces, but usually I have no idea who the characters are per se.

The best way to describe it is this, a dream is a trick. It's not true, it can't hurt you, it's simply your brain saying "Oh hai, this is how powerful I actually am if you could use me properly". Dreams have never bothered me, even when I have terrifying ones once I'm awake I know it's a dream and I go back to sleep. I'm not sure how bad yours are, but I've had some shockers, yours seem to be way more frequent though which is strange. I'm not sure what could be done about it unless there's an underlying problem.

On the lucid dream stuff that BloodyL is talking about, it takes a long time to be able to control a dream, a lot of the time you start in control, and it goes off the rails (kind of what you're saying Shay) but not always to Death R Us, it's rare you have complete control over a dream because that's more like a trip, which requires chemicals en masse.

 

[stealthgeek]

I used to get 'night terrors', quite scary, basically a dream you cant wake up from. Remember feeling like I was being chased by a werewolf, trying to watch TV to get my mind off it, terrible

I find that when you see/hear something related to your dream it pops back into your memory again