Drink driving record broken...

mollymoo · 13 Jan 2010 at 15:28

I'm betting there's a few on here who are calling drunk drivers scum who have driven over the limit in the morning after a big session the night before.

Saying that I don't like drink drivers.

Parsley · 13 Jan 2010 at 15:45

Lock the guy up and remove his right to drive for life, people like him kill completely undeserving people because they have no thought for others, only their own drunken need to get home. Don't really care if he kills himself in a tonne of metal but get the hell off public roads.

15 pints... what a ******.

Sin_Chase · 13 Jan 2010 at 15:48

What about the record for most crashes before stopping?

http://www.channelonline.tv/channelonline_jerseynews/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=476128

Parsley · 13 Jan 2010 at 15:58

mollymoo said:
I'm betting there's a few on here who are calling drunk drivers scum who have driven over the limit in the morning after a big session the night before.

Saying that I don't like drink drivers.

Being over the limit is wrong in any form, but there is a huge difference in being a tiny bit over the morning after and driving around like this moron did.

wormwood · 13 Jan 2010 at 16:55

I think the laws on this are perfectly fine as they are. I like to have a pint or even 2 if I'm out for a meal with family and friends. There is a big difference between this and driving after having half a dozen or a dozen pints down the local.

I get around · 13 Jan 2010 at 17:02

A nice cold pint and a meal. Then a couple of glasses of pop or something after. I don't see anything wrong driving after that.
If it's a nice hot summers day, drive out to a country pub for a bit of lunch in the beer garden, read of my book.

Nothing wrong with a pint, no one feels anything off a pint except for maybe midgets or children, but anything more I'd say impairs your driving.

gambitt · 13 Jan 2010 at 17:18

I get around said:
A nice cold pint and a meal. Then a couple of glasses of pop or something after. I don't see anything wrong driving after that.
If it's a nice hot summers day, drive out to a country pub for a bit of lunch in the beer garden, read of my book.

Nothing wrong with a pint, no one feels anything off a pint except for maybe midgets or children, but anything more I'd say impairs your driving.

Exactly, this is also my idea of a pleasant sunday summer afternoon. Unfortunately some people prefer to go down the "ban everyone from drinking any alcohol at all" route just because a small percentage of people decide to break the law. Guess what? If someone is going to drink 15 pints and drive the same day then they are going to do it regardless of what law is in place.

SlyReaper · 13 Jan 2010 at 17:27

15 pints? That's insane. How could he possibly have thought it was safe to drive? Well I suppose he was too drunk to realise. What a knob.

Dogoid · 13 Jan 2010 at 17:37

TheMightyTen said:
TBH Drink driver = Scum

If he was my mate before this he wouldn't be now.

you not the kind of mate i would want to have, if to dump a so called friendship as soon as things went wrong.

to ditch someone like that isn't what i would called friendship .

I get around · 13 Jan 2010 at 17:43

SlyReaper said:
15 pints? That's insane. How could he possibly have thought it was safe to drive? Well I suppose he was too drunk to realise. What a knob.

"One minute you're having a couple of drinks, the next thing you know you're in a vehicle smashing into things"

For those in the know.

Tefal · 13 Jan 2010 at 17:46

bledd. said:
Police stopped 764 motorists over the Christmas break with 67 drivers failing breath tests

Holy crap!

~9% over the limit

erm tat would only be shocking if that was

Police randomly stopped 764 motorists over the Christmas break with 67 drivers failing breath tests

They were pulled over for a reason.

D.P. · 13 Jan 2010 at 18:04

wormwood said:
I think the laws on this are perfectly fine as they are. I like to have a pint or even 2 if I'm out for a meal with family and friends. There is a big difference between this and driving after having half a dozen or a dozen pints down the local.

2 pints of reasonable lager, say Stella, will most probably put you above the drink driving limit. (depending on body size and time from consumption to driving).

There are about 2.5-3.0 units of alcohol per pint,2.0 for weak pale ales, strong beers contain much more. Typically between 3.0-4.0 units will put most people over the drink drive limit.

wormwood · 13 Jan 2010 at 18:49

D.P. said:
2 pints of reasonable lager, say Stella, will most probably put you above the drink driving limit. (depending on body size and time from consumption to driving).

There are about 2.5-3.0 units of alcohol per pint,2.0 for weak pale ales, strong beers contain much more. Typically between 3.0-4.0 units will put most people over the drink drive limit.

Yeah, I'm talking about spending 2 hours plus at a country pub with a large meal not downing 2 pints and jumping in the car. I don't think thats unreasonable really.

Wicksta · 13 Jan 2010 at 18:58

Telescopi said:
Driving on the motorway at night when you haven't slept for over 24 hours is worse though.

And legal.

But it doesn't have the stigma attached. A poster in motors (Phate) crashed his new car after being awake for 28 hours then falling asleep, crashing it into a lorry on the motorway and shrugged it off like it was fine and no one really said anything about it which surprised me. I mentioned it and he basically told me to **** off and mind my own business saying it wasn't something bad at all even though I posted a link to the Selby rail crash.

Dave M · 13 Jan 2010 at 19:12

wormwood said:
Yeah, I'm talking about spending 2 hours plus at a country pub with a large meal not downing 2 pints and jumping in the car. I don't think thats unreasonable really.

You'd probably want to spend more like 4 hours there, assuming 'average' liver function.

Dogoid · 13 Jan 2010 at 20:13

2 hours since we are allowed 1.5 units anyway.

JJKrista1 · 13 Jan 2010 at 20:22

Ban was too short IMHO.

Biohazard · 13 Jan 2010 at 20:33

dmpoole said:
Corrected.

Year before last there was a Tonight special where the presenter got behind the wheel of a car fitted out with special equipment.
This equipment watched your eyes and movements and after only one shot of vodka his eyes were wandering.
2 shots and he was worse but after 5 shots he said that he shouldn't be behind the wheel now.
Funnily enough when they breathalysed him he was under the limit.

Co-incidently I think I watched the same thing.. and I felt they were play acting up to the camera.

Greebo · 13 Jan 2010 at 21:00

Tefal said:
erm tat would only be shocking if that was

They were pulled over for a reason.

Totally agree which means 697 sober people were driving in such a fashion as to make the police think they had been drinking. That's the shocking figure in that result.

Angilion · 13 Jan 2010 at 22:51

Rids said:
As somebody else mentioned, the drink drive limit should be 0. There is too much confusion now, with people going 'I've had a couple, I'll be ok, I'm only a little bit over the limit' or 'I can have one more and still be under the limit' - it shouldnt be about whether you're under some number, it should be about how able you are to make the journey safely without putting anybody at risk, and even a small amount of alcohol has an impact on the way you drive.

Which is why there's a small limit.

A zero limit that's effectively enforced would essentially outlaw driving because anyone can have a non-zero level at any time even if they're teetotal (we all make alcohol internally, it's a by-product of digestion). Then there's the issue of over the counter medicines containing alcohol. Have some cough medicine and it's illegal for you to drive for hours.

It's not reasonable, fair or practical.