Soldato
There’s no truth in alcohol, only deception.
Drinking too much
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Soldato
This topic resonates with me a lot as it's something I've gone through all my life I guess since I was old enough ( and before ) to legally drink.
I was the first born child of my parents and their brothers sisters back in the 70's so as you can imagine my folks were barely out of their teens themselves and they liked to party where possible. So my idea of a good time was drinking dancing and singing and so on. There was definitely a little dope flying about although I wasn't aware of this until probably my mid teens.
I regularly go through what i like to refer as phases of heavy or consistent drinking. Looking back I can recognize similar types of drinking patterns for dealing with uncomfortable feelings and then getting stuck in a loop of feel like crap - drink - feel better - drink too much - be hungover - feel like crap - repeat. I pretty much managed to maintain jobs all through this and paid bills etc but at least once was fired in my mid twenties for alcohol related performance issues ( from a pub no less ! ) I also very nearly lost a call centre job for being 4 hours late and stinking of booze on arrival.
Having dropped out of uni a second time ( drink again ) I moved country to arrive in Scotland about 2010 just before my 30's - and was regularly getting blackout drunk. At one point I was encouraged to go to a casino to keep drinking past licensing hours having never been to a casino in my life - I remember 2 bottles of corona on top of all the whisky and Guinness and then it's daylight and I'm in my bed - I have no idea what happened but got a letter from the casino stating I had a lifetime ban. Also I could not lift my arms properly for three months I'm guessing where I was hauled out by security. I was so ashamed I never sought medical attention for the potential tissue damage however it went away after a few months.
Other blackout horror stories : waking up in roadworks with traffic about a foot away from me crashed on my bike - no memory of leaving the party. Smashing a pair of glasses and a tooth in the same night - cost me £400 to replace when I was super broke. Being thrown out of campsites on holidays with mates because I was aggressively swearing and shouting at folk. Being a dick to my still partner at the start of our relationship.
I have had a few breaks in my 30's from drinking - a 4 month period after the smashed tooth, glasses incident. Then 18 months when my son was gestating/born. But there's always some social event or something that happens that that turns me back to the great stress reliever. Last year I was basically dry for the first four months of 2018 coupled with doing OMAD to get healthy. I dropped 23kg and felt pretty good about myself - then a visit to meet up with old school friends started me on the 'ah one night won't be so bad' train and now I sit here having packed back on 15kg not from binging necessarily but just consistently drinking since about mid July. My son is 7 years old and while I still live with my partner our lifestyles are such that I do a lot of the childcare and can get really stressed having to argue about every single thing. I haven't had a drink nor the feeling I want a drink since I stopped about 10 days ago and I really am aiming for stopping altogether this time as I'd like to be in better health both mentally and physically.
Things that I enjoy that are non drink related:
my work - I work from home and can throw myself into it. I also have a community of people I work with so it's not so isolated - we chat through slack
podcasts - these have been a lifesaver for me - I love putting on my headphones and listening to a podcast or two while doing chores round the house or walking
walking - I'm lucky that I live in an area with a fantastic park so I always put a podcast on and ramble
playing card/board games with my son ( and computer games )
Virtual reality - how's that for escapism !
My goals are to keep working hard but also to try and get a certification in something like CompTIA Network+ with a view to getting CCNA/CCNET further down the line.
So I can empathize with that feeling of depression /despair that alcohol induces in oneself so OP I hope you get the support you need to get through it. It's definitely better being sober - I think a quick hack is just to get a good nights sleep. Few of those in a row ( no reading your phone in bed ! ) and you'll start to feel better very quickly IMO
I was the first born child of my parents and their brothers sisters back in the 70's so as you can imagine my folks were barely out of their teens themselves and they liked to party where possible. So my idea of a good time was drinking dancing and singing and so on. There was definitely a little dope flying about although I wasn't aware of this until probably my mid teens.
I regularly go through what i like to refer as phases of heavy or consistent drinking. Looking back I can recognize similar types of drinking patterns for dealing with uncomfortable feelings and then getting stuck in a loop of feel like crap - drink - feel better - drink too much - be hungover - feel like crap - repeat. I pretty much managed to maintain jobs all through this and paid bills etc but at least once was fired in my mid twenties for alcohol related performance issues ( from a pub no less ! ) I also very nearly lost a call centre job for being 4 hours late and stinking of booze on arrival.
Having dropped out of uni a second time ( drink again ) I moved country to arrive in Scotland about 2010 just before my 30's - and was regularly getting blackout drunk. At one point I was encouraged to go to a casino to keep drinking past licensing hours having never been to a casino in my life - I remember 2 bottles of corona on top of all the whisky and Guinness and then it's daylight and I'm in my bed - I have no idea what happened but got a letter from the casino stating I had a lifetime ban. Also I could not lift my arms properly for three months I'm guessing where I was hauled out by security. I was so ashamed I never sought medical attention for the potential tissue damage however it went away after a few months.
Other blackout horror stories : waking up in roadworks with traffic about a foot away from me crashed on my bike - no memory of leaving the party. Smashing a pair of glasses and a tooth in the same night - cost me £400 to replace when I was super broke. Being thrown out of campsites on holidays with mates because I was aggressively swearing and shouting at folk. Being a dick to my still partner at the start of our relationship.
I have had a few breaks in my 30's from drinking - a 4 month period after the smashed tooth, glasses incident. Then 18 months when my son was gestating/born. But there's always some social event or something that happens that that turns me back to the great stress reliever. Last year I was basically dry for the first four months of 2018 coupled with doing OMAD to get healthy. I dropped 23kg and felt pretty good about myself - then a visit to meet up with old school friends started me on the 'ah one night won't be so bad' train and now I sit here having packed back on 15kg not from binging necessarily but just consistently drinking since about mid July. My son is 7 years old and while I still live with my partner our lifestyles are such that I do a lot of the childcare and can get really stressed having to argue about every single thing. I haven't had a drink nor the feeling I want a drink since I stopped about 10 days ago and I really am aiming for stopping altogether this time as I'd like to be in better health both mentally and physically.
Things that I enjoy that are non drink related:
my work - I work from home and can throw myself into it. I also have a community of people I work with so it's not so isolated - we chat through slack
podcasts - these have been a lifesaver for me - I love putting on my headphones and listening to a podcast or two while doing chores round the house or walking
walking - I'm lucky that I live in an area with a fantastic park so I always put a podcast on and ramble
playing card/board games with my son ( and computer games )
Virtual reality - how's that for escapism !
My goals are to keep working hard but also to try and get a certification in something like CompTIA Network+ with a view to getting CCNA/CCNET further down the line.
So I can empathize with that feeling of depression /despair that alcohol induces in oneself so OP I hope you get the support you need to get through it. It's definitely better being sober - I think a quick hack is just to get a good nights sleep. Few of those in a row ( no reading your phone in bed ! ) and you'll start to feel better very quickly IMO
For the past year or so, I've only found myself drinking at social events and even then I no longer get to the point of being absolutely plastered.
I still fancy the occasional beer now and then but the last time I had a drink was New Years Eve, and before that in September.
Maybe it's just me but I think I'd feel quite sick drinking as frequently as daily/every other day.
I still fancy the occasional beer now and then but the last time I had a drink was New Years Eve, and before that in September.
Maybe it's just me but I think I'd feel quite sick drinking as frequently as daily/every other day.
They meant that once a person gets wine, he opens his soul/begins to speak true things....
Soldato
no he doesn't
Err? One glass of red wine a day?
Soldato
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did anyone watch this?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bhkc8b
fair play to him for making it, was a good insight into how drink can creep in by stealth and take hold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX2opvj7WE8
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bhkc8b
fair play to him for making it, was a good insight into how drink can creep in by stealth and take hold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX2opvj7WE8
Soldato
Louis Doc as well shows the aftermath and how it can affect everyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxEaw2MFnH8
Soldato
one glass of red wine a day will not cause one to 'open their soul' and speak 'true things'. that's utter guff and fantasy that has propagated down through the ages with people writing such lyrical nonsense such as your original post i quoted. by all means drink, i'm not suggesting everyone stops drinking but don't spout or believe the nonsense that alcohol frees ones mind or opens it to higher thoughts. if anything, alcohol is an inhibitor of ones mind.
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you sound like the average british citizen tbh.
that is the reason why in the UK in terms of numbers they are underachieving in every sport. when a country like iceland has the population of 10 people can outplay england with a population of 100 million in a game with 11 players just shows the effect of booze culture in the UK.
those shows where it shows brits on holiday completely off their heads drinking and doing anything for fun.
alcohol is only really fun if you stay on a certain level. i find people drink wrong in the UK. as in they will drink lager first 2-3 pints before hitting spirits. so they are drinking soft stuff to get onto the right high. then hard stuff to maintain that high which puts them over the edge. try drinking 2-3 double vodkas. then switching to lager it will help you stay in the right zone and not end up in a jail cell or A&E.
drinking to excess isn't cool but it's a cultural thing in the uk. until it is stopped this country will underachieve in terms of sports for years to come. with only the very committed or lucky making it. at the boxing gym i used to go to we had the under 21 champion of scotland and he was going for the under 21 uk belt. he posted videos to facebook/twitter of him and his mates downing half bottles of vodka in 1 go. safe to say he never made it as a boxer. all that talent down the drain. he would rather stay in a scheme full of scum drinking bucky than be a millionaire on sky sports driving a lambo.
Caporegime
Unbelievable depth of research on show here, this is a new level even for you Sonny
He was never going to make it regardless of the booze, Tyson Fury abused his body with alcohol and drugs for years and still made it to the very highest level. Saying the UK's underachievement in sport is down to booze culture is about the simplest argument I've ever seen put forward.
Slightly OT but why do alcoholics and drug users look so ill even if the've stopped for years. Have they damaged thier liver or is it from bad nutrition or what. They look pale or greasy, just generally unwell like the've got radiation poisoning - and it's irreversible. Paul Gascoigne is an example. I'm guessing they've perm damaged their liver or other organs?
Soldato
Yup, permanent damage to the body. That and often those that claim to be dry for years aren’t necessarily so (like Gazza)
Soldato
Yes I drink too much but I don't become a dick when I do so.
Some weeks I can be down the local bars 3 nights a week having 5 or 6 pints of beer and then maybe at a gig another night and another 5 or so pints. Some weeks I might only go out once but I am out drinking every week. I went to Dublin last October for 5 nights and I was drinking every afternoon and evening.
Hardly drink when I'm home though, just the odd bottle of flavoured cider once in a blue moon.
Some weeks I can be down the local bars 3 nights a week having 5 or 6 pints of beer and then maybe at a gig another night and another 5 or so pints. Some weeks I might only go out once but I am out drinking every week. I went to Dublin last October for 5 nights and I was drinking every afternoon and evening.
Hardly drink when I'm home though, just the odd bottle of flavoured cider once in a blue moon.
Soldato
completely and utterly wrong. the op sounds nothing like the average British citizen
huge generalisation and shows you don't have a clue what you are talking about. there are a multitude of reasons why the english football team are usually massive underachievers. a bunch of kids drinking bucky in the park is not the reason the senior team lost to iceland.
as already stated above he was probably never going to make it anyway. again shows a massive lack of understanding. another very quick and easy example to sink your rationale, Gianluca Vialli, smoked and drank during his entire career and was still a massively talented and able footballer who achieved greatness within his sport, much like Tyson Fury (even though he's been lucky to be fighting during a time when there is nothing of note in the heavyweight division - but that's another conversation for another time)
Soldato
I stopped drinking to excess a few years back (I wasn't a problem drinker but I would binge drink on nights out), in part it was due to moving to a new town which meant that meeting up with mates involved driving. In addition though I found that I was suffering quite severe mood swings for days after. I always felt a bit down following a heavy night but now it's absolutely awful for at least 3 days and it really damages my productivity.
I still drink but no more than two drinks on a night. I feel much better mentally for it.
I still drink but no more than two drinks on a night. I feel much better mentally for it.
If I drink more than 4 pints now on a night it is almost guaranteed to trigger a migraine which can have me crippled and throwing up for the next 12 hours.
Over Christmas there were some days I was steady drinking all day but with food in between. But a proper night out is literally a no go for me now and it's probably just as well.
My 20s were a fantastic blur though.
Over Christmas there were some days I was steady drinking all day but with food in between. But a proper night out is literally a no go for me now and it's probably just as well.
My 20s were a fantastic blur though.
Soldato
do it, don't just talk/post about it. i guarantee you this, if you keep drinking you will 100% not change your accommodation situation.
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natural talent counts for a lot in football. look at zidane he showed us it's not all about how fast you are if you are technically gifted he could still skin 3-4 players with zero pace. higuain bangs in goals just by being in the right place at the right time rather than ronaldo/hazard who creates goals all by himself.
booze is scientifically proven to deteriorate performance. same goes with cigs. so vialli would have been a lot better had he not done so. you only need to look at adriano's career. he was better than ronaldo (brazilian) as he posessed all of his pace and skill but also had height and strength. as soon as he started drinking he turned into a nobody. the same happens with many of the talent in the UK that start drinking before they make it. adriano started drinking after he had made it but went downhill fast.
it just goes to show you how someone who was the best striker on the planet turned into one worse than emile heskey within a year. the effect it could have on upcoming young talent.