Driven over wet tarmac - who is at fault here?
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This really.
Should never have even got to the point where client was asked to find cleanup companies.
Should have been:
Step 1: contact client telling them that you are sorry and you will arrange a cleanup immediately
Step 2: clean it up immediately yourself or get a company to do it
Step 3: notify council so that the pavement is fixed and describe the pavement as a tripping hazard, they will take the notification far more seriously
Step 4: Move on
All in a days work and though it cost you a little bit, it will likely cost the council more to sort out the pavement and has cost you less than the ag and time of trying to fleece a bit of cash, arguing the signage was not enough.
Business insurance would surely cover this though?
To be honest, if you moaned enough at the council they'd just write it off as their fault. Or rather, they'd pass off blame to the contractors.
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Insurance would cover this but is it even worth the claim?
Same goes for a council moan, is it worth the time and effort?
You might even get bitten back when the council decide not only was there proper signage and it was 100% their fault but her driving also caused a pavement fault which should be paid for.
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Yes, while some people think everything they can get their hands on is worth every minute of their time and is earned rather than taken by demand, I cant imagine the cost of the cleanup would be all that much.
If fault was accepted on the same day, the worst of it would have been removed relatively easily by the driver and a bit of effort.
If fault was accepted on the same day, the worst of it would have been removed relatively easily by the driver and a bit of effort.
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£53k a year for walking dogs?I used to get paid £5 a week to walk my neighbours dog
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The money is made group walking dogs. £12 per dog for a 90 minute slot. Four dogs per slot, three group walks gives a total of £144. Add some visits before and after the walks and you are looking at about £200 a day. If a dog boards then that is £25.00 a night, even more on weekends. Also, a lot of Mums off work at the moment for school holidays who have dogs and want a bit of extra money so will board dogs for a small referral fee. Obviously these are not random people and have been vetted and are fully insured. She is training to become a dog groomer as there is a real shortage in the area. Once that is up and running we will hire some people to conduct the walking while she concentrates on the more lucrative grooming.
A lot of people look down at her from their 30k jobs when she says what she does, probably thinking it's a minimum wage gig
She's worked incredibly hard to get and retain all the business that she has and her first month she only made £130 
I normally frequent the hardware section but I have seen a fair amount of GD posts over the years so kinda knew what to expect.
That is what we are doing, however, we are saving hard for a mortgage so if we can claim back the cost of the cleaning as the council are liable then we would be stupid not to.
Again, someones driving ability does not directly relate to their intelligence and business acumen.
Please take the time to reread what I posted. She is merely stating to the client that she feels that there were not enough signs but offering to pay in full for the cost of the cleaning.
lol you've basically done £144 * 365 = approx 53k...
in reality it doesn't necessarily work like that - firstly she's probably not going to be at capacity every day and secondly I doubt she does it 365 days a year... no doubt there are other sources of revenue as you've pointed out but I'd be very skeptical of the 53k a year from a single person dog walking
No one has commented on driving ability. Some people have commented that she was a bit stupid and/or lazy to ignore the cone and drive over the grass. I mean it had a sign on it and was presumably there for a reason (bit stupid to ignore). Even if she hadn't considered why it might be there and just assumed it was a random cone then it is still lazy and inconsiderate to not just get out of the car and move it rather than drive over the grass (in doing so she'd have seen the sign anyway).
The fact she may earn a reasonable amount from walking dogs isn't exactly relevant.
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The money earned from walking dogs on the lunchtime walk alone is around £144. That alone is not worth 53K. However, add in morning & afternoon visits, dog boarding, sub-contracting etc and you would be surprised how it all adds up. Sunday work, if she takes it is also lucrative. She has two reactive dogs that she walks, they are £21 for both of them for an hour during the week, on the odd occasion she is asked to work a Sunday morning it is £31.50 for the hours walk. She will typically work Mon-Fri with the occasional weekend work, her wage is not comparable to a 9-5 role. She is working all the hours she can within reason as we want to get a house deposit asap. Also, Summer is incredibly busy for boarding, you would not believe how many people leave it to the last minute and then will pay the extra for a last minute booking. If you are genuinely interested I will share her diary today and you can see a breakdown of where her income is coming from
I do agree that her mounting the kurb to get onto the drive is a n00b move, I would not personally have done that. But I would have expected there to be more signage.
I posted what she earns because I was getting the impression that people were starting to think she was another dumb woman with a barely viable company looking to shift blame I did not post it to brag as I know most posters in here are probably earning much more than that in IT/management positions.
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You don't need to post financial information. I'd say you've shared enough already, so fair play to someone making a living like that
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SHE DROVE OVER THE GRASS AFTER SHE DROVE UP THE DRIVE, TO AVOID GOING OVER THE DRIVE AGAIN. DO YOU THINK SHE GOES AROUND WITH TAR ON HER TYRES ALL THE TIME?! GRASS DOESN'T TURN BLACK BECAUSE YOU'VE DRIVEN ON IT.
Thanks.
I don't get why people are looking at her occupation in order to judge how bright she might be. I know people who barely can wipe their own **** and they're managers.
Lack of immediate signage yes, maybe she should have checked it first after seeing it - dark cement, spread up the walls, onto grass - instead of just driving over and hoping for the best? But her picture shows clearly when the incident occurred that they hadn't bothered with proper signage, just a single cone for the whole street.
Lack of immediate signage yes, maybe she should have checked it first after seeing it - dark cement, spread up the walls, onto grass - instead of just driving over and hoping for the best? But her picture shows clearly when the incident occurred that they hadn't bothered with proper signage, just a single cone for the whole street.
She also drove over the grass to get on the drive. Otherwise how did she get up there?
oh dear, logic fail...
take a look at the picture again and perhaps check your font size, you're not coming across as being particularly bright here
the cone is blocking the drive, she had to drive over the grass to get onto it! You can see two sets of tracks on the drive from driving onto it then back off it... sure she's cut across more of the grass in her attempt to maneuver off the drive but she also had to mount the grass with the left side of the car in the first place to get on the drive.
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