Driving fail, no not my test just generally.
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never drive tired, overly or not.
just taking a 20 minute break can work wonders..
the worst thing i've done is notice that after a bend, the road was white, but not register it and i lost the back end as soon as i hit the snow.
ended up spinning 180 into the snow bank on the other side of the road.
thankfully the oncoming traffic was far enough away to avoid me, but it was an A road and i was doing ~40
scary stuff. morning grogginess + very worn winter tyres = failure.
and i had a colleague with me in the car
Unfortunately in the real world, it is near enough impossible to not drive when tired.
Its ok saying not to, but realisticly everyone has done so to a certain extent.
Woke up late for work in the morning? Shower, no breakfast still feeling tired and drove to work?
i did one today. at a roundabout. driver from the oposite side of the roudabout not indicating at all so assumed she was pulling off at the road where i was waiting to pull out (straight). pulled out and she then decided to indicate and beep at me for pulling out infront of her.
not my fault really i guess i need to wait to see what people do before pulling out but somehow felt like it was my fault.
other drivers have nearly caused about 2 or 3 major accidents with me recently. one in particular was pretty bad. on a roundabout again in the middle lane turning right. he was in the middle going straight, cut into my lane and very nearly hit the front of my car..
StevenG
not my fault really i guess i need to wait to see what people do before pulling out but somehow felt like it was my fault.
other drivers have nearly caused about 2 or 3 major accidents with me recently. one in particular was pretty bad. on a roundabout again in the middle lane turning right. he was in the middle going straight, cut into my lane and very nearly hit the front of my car..
StevenG
First incident, umm yes your fault
not even close to being her fault!Second incident, not really sure what's going on. If you were both in the middle, no problem, so clearly you weren't. If he was to the inside of you, then assuming he joined the roundabout before you (otherwise either you're in the wrong lane or he's in the wrong lane), his right of way.
I Drove for nearly 12 hours yesterday, swindon to wootton bassett to solihull to east midlands airport to liverpool to edinburgh omni the to whitecraig just outside, over 500 miles, left at 7am this morning drove from edinburgh to nottingham then to burbage (about 20 miles from swindon) with only one stop and I never came close to making any mistake like that, over 1000 miles in 2 days!
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i have seen two taxis doing this on the same roundabout!
how can you know what what speed I was going without knowing the route I took/traffic etc, I left at 8.07am and arrived at premier inn inveresk at 8pm... when your going around cities etc its not quite as simple as time/distance
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This is why driving for 5 hours is not for cool kids.
First incident, umm yes your fault
Second incident, not really sure what's going on. If you were both in the middle, no problem, so clearly you weren't. If he was to the inside of you, then assuming he joined the roundabout before you (otherwise either you're in the wrong lane or he's in the wrong lane), his right of way.
i was on the inside lane turning right he was in the middle lane going straight across and he cut into my lane nearly hitting me.
pic me in blue. other guy in red.
2nd one. when going straight at a roundabout you dont need to indicate until your going to pull off at a junction. this person should have been indicating right to show that she wasnt going straight. she got to the cross point ive marked (looking as if she was going to come off as she was going straight) and then put her signal on to show she was turning.
pic again me in blue, where she started to indicate marked.
if i was wrong then im wrong but i dont think i was.
StevenG
Ah ok, my bad, definitely his fault here.
I'm a bit confused - did she indicate (late) to turn off? Or did she indicate to stay on the roundabout? If the former, it's perhaps 50-50 fault (if you're lucky) if you'd hit her as she was indicating misleadingly but - indicators are just that - indicators, and you must not rely on them; the onus is on you to make sure you're pulling out safely, regardless of what the other car is indicating. If the latter, 100% your fault; equally if she hadn't indicated at all.
That make sense at all?
I've done some fairly spectacularly stupid things before. I once managed to skid by going round a small roundabout in third gear in the wet. Luckily, I regained control before going into anything, and nobody saw me. 
I had only been driving for a month or so when that happened, and I like to think I've improved a bit since then (I couldn't exactly get worse).
I had only been driving for a month or so when that happened, and I like to think I've improved a bit since then (I couldn't exactly get worse).
I'm a bit confused - did she indicate (late) to turn off? Or did she indicate to stay on the roundabout? If the former, it's perhaps 50-50 fault (if you're lucky) if you'd hit her as she was indicating misleadingly but - indicators are just that - indicators, and you must not rely on them; the onus is on you to make sure you're pulling out safely, regardless of what the other car is indicating. If the latter, 100% your fault; equally if she hadn't indicated at all.
That make sense at all?
indicated to pull off at that point (while i was in the middle of pulling out) i suppose your right about indicators but still. it annoyed me lol.
StevenG
Because you told me how long it took and how far you went?
v = d/t
as I said that average includes all the stop start city driving and drop offs, so its not quite as simple as say just going on the motorway whats wrong with a 40mph average anyway
?as I said that average includes all the stop start city driving and drop offs, so its not quite as simple as say just going on the motorway whats wrong with a 40mph average anyway
Nothing lol I was just feeling argumentative
