Drone crash - investigation

I don't see how this could be charged with endangering an aircraft. The offence requires the aircraft to be "in flight" which is defined as:

Section 38 of the Aviation Security Act 1982 said:
38(3) For the purposes of this Act -

(a) the period during which an aircraft is in flight shall be deemed to include any period from the moment when all its external doors are closed following embarkation until the moment when any such door is opened for disembarkation, and, in the case of a forced landing, any period until the competent authorities take over responsibility for the aircraft and for persons and property on board; and
(b) an aircraft shall be taken to be in service during the whole of the period which begins with the pre-flight preparation of the aircraft for a flight and ends 24 hours after the aircraft lands having completed that flight, and also at any time (not falling within that period) while, in accordance with the preceding paragraph, the aircraft is in flight, and anything done on board an aircraft while in flight over any part of the United Kingdom shall be treated s done in that part of the United Kingdom.
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I can't see how a drone can ever meet that definition of "in flight" and therefore the offence can't be complete.

Criminal damage is a no-brainer though.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I don't see how this could be charged with endangering an aircraft. The offence requires the aircraft to be "in flight" which is defined as:



I can't see how a drone can ever meet that definition of "in flight" and therefore the offence can't be complete.

Criminal damage is a no-brainer though.
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That's what happens when a drone journalist tries to be a lawyer.
 
Marktheman said:
Amazon were terrific and have offered a full refund if I return the case, charger and controller as they were happy to agree it was a malfunction and because I spend thousands with them and have rarely retuned anything.
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Hmmm. Call me skeptical but I doubt they care about that :cry:
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I don't see how this could be charged with endangering an aircraft. The offence requires the aircraft to be "in flight" which is defined as:

Section 38 of the Aviation Security Act 1982 said: said:
38(3) For the purposes of this Act -

(a) the period during which an aircraft is in flight shall be deemed to include any period from the moment when all its external doors are closed following embarkation until the moment when any such door is opened for disembarkation, and, in the case of a forced landing, any period until the competent authorities take over responsibility for the aircraft and for persons and property on board; and
(b) an aircraft shall be taken to be in service during the whole of the period which begins with the pre-flight preparation of the aircraft for a flight and ends 24 hours after the aircraft lands having completed that flight, and also at any time (not falling within that period) while, in accordance with the preceding paragraph, the aircraft is in flight, and anything done on board an aircraft while in flight over any part of the United Kingdom shall be treated s done in that part of the United Kingdom.
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I can't see how a drone can ever meet that definition of "in flight" and therefore the offence can't be complete.

Criminal damage is a no-brainer though.
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It isn't the drone which has to be "in flight", it's the aircraft being endangered.
 
So I had this. And never used it again.

Mine was supposed to return to launch point if it had any issues (out of range etc)

One flight.. Probably 5th use. It shot off. Could have gone anywhere. Hit someone etc. Lucky it was a rural village. Was found in a tree about half mile away.

But yeah. Could have been much worse
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I thought the whole point being argued is that the drone is the aircraft being supposedly endangered?
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I find it difficult to get my head around the possibility that anyone, save for the person who has spent bundles on it, would be concerned in the slightest about a drone being endangered.

413x said:
So I had this. And never used it again.

Mine was supposed to return to launch point if it had any issues (out of range etc)

One flight.. Probably 5th use. It shot off. Could have gone anywhere. Hit someone etc. Lucky it was a rural village. Was found in a tree about half mile away.

But yeah. Could have been much worse
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Gee, d’you think?
 
Dis86 said:
The individual above claimed if you shot down a drone you will be charged with endangering an aircraft.
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In US, country with nuts with lots of guns, it's automatically prosecuted crime to shoot at any aerial vehicle.
And would expect every civilized western country to have roughly similar laws.
Though not sure if Brexit caused disconnection to civilization...
 
dr0wned!

General malfunction, maybe due to cosmic rays passing the drone's circuits at that exact moment flipping a bit from a 0 to a 1 or vice versa. These happen all the time but rarely occur in instances where a major malfunction happens as a result. There are documented cases of this happening, Belgium election being a prime example, another is a Super Mario speed runner glitching up a map to break a record which should be absolutely impossible. It was replicated only on demand but flipping a specific bit at that exact moment as an experiment proving that a bit flip occurred to cause it.

More detail: https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2019/05/20/cosmic-rays-flipping-bits/
 
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