Ducati 1098 S vs Ducati 848 Evo

agnes · 11 Dec 2011 at 18:40

Right, I am going to be getting either one in the next few weeks, hopefully before crimbo. Now, my limit is £11k, a brand new 848 Evo goes at £11k exactly...

However, thought I would check insurance quotes and to get a 2008 1098S is MUCH cheaper than a 2011 848 Evo.

Bike price wise, I can grab a VERY smart (inc termi's) 1098S for less than £9k leaving me with more than enough to pay for a years insurance, new leathers and a few extra goodies. Which won't be needed as most of the goodies are already there!

So, what do I do?

Never owned a new bike as I always thought it would be cheaper to go 2nd hand, and it's still the obvious case, but the only thing stopping me ringing this guy about his bike tomorrow is the fact its almost got 10k miles on the clock. It's and official Ducati dealership who I would have bought the new 848 from. So yea, I'm a bit confused.

Normally I would slap me in the face and scream '1098S!!! A ******* 1098S... OHLINS, TERMIS!!! YOU FOOL!' but my brain has suddenly perched my chin in my hand and hmm'd out loud.

HELP!

agnes · 11 Dec 2011 at 22:11

The insurance is also a huge factor here.

Thanks for the replies, I would love a 1098 S. Would I really become bored after having a 748 for several years? I am going to book in a day soon at Moto Rapido to test ride a 848 evo, hopefully I can get a shot on a 1098 at the same time.

agnes · 11 Dec 2011 at 22:46

Now it's very odd.

848 Evo 2011 = £1350
1098S 2008 - £800

Being a young gun still hurts my insurance

Thats with 2 years NCB as well.

So, as you can see my choices are:

a) get a 1098S, save £2,000, spend £800 of that for a years insurance. Treat my self to some new leathers and gloves.
b) 848 Evo at £10,000 (if I shop around)

My mind has seriously taken a liking at 'a', but as my old dear just said, it depends on what feels more natural to me. Going to have to test ride them both. The 848 has a higher seat by 10mm than the 1098S, 1098S coming in at 830mm height, my 748 being 780mm (had my suspension done for me).

Thankfully I am 6'2" tall haha, so the 748 is a tiny bike for me.

agnes · 12 Dec 2011 at 08:21

kidloco said:
I couldn't bare to part with 13k on 848 when the 1199 is just around the corner. Sure it's a bit more but do it properly, sell a kidney, whatever it takes.

If that's a definite no go then see how the test ride goes.

The insurance for me on a 1199 would be a joke lol.

agnes · 12 Dec 2011 at 08:32

kitfit1 said:
I would always buy a bike with a few miles on it, especially a Ducati. It means that it has actually been riden rather than sat in a garage, and 10,000 miles for a 2008 1098s sounds fine to me. If you go for the 1098s, take it to JHP and get the suspension set up for you.
The rear end in particular is just about unusable on the road if you are 5ft 4ins and 10 1/2 stone like me lol. Costs about £150 and is worth every penny. Also worth considering is taking it to Chris at CJS and have it set up with a custom map on his Dyno, costs £425. The difference it makes is startling..........................and that comes from a bike that is already mind blowingly quick.

I would let the guys at Pro Twins, they did my 748 for me. I fully agree with getting sus setup. It's the first and foremost important 'upgrade' there is, transforms the bike

Last time I got it done at Pro Twins it cost me £50.

As for mapping, will be a while until that is on my list of upgrades!

I have decided, a 1098S is my next bike

agnes · 12 Dec 2011 at 08:52

kitfit1 said:
The £150 include a longer rear spring in my case. Because i'm light, the OEM spring has no movement in it. Swapping it for a longer one now means that it rides the road better, rather than throwing my bum all over the place lol.
You won't regret going with the 1098s...............................i havn't.

Thought the ohlins does had adjustable height and spring?

agnes · 12 Dec 2011 at 10:02

kitfit1 said:
It does, but the OEM spring has little to no travel in it when you only wiegh 10 1/2 stone.

I only weigh 11 1/2

Just talking to the sales rep at the place where the 1098 is

agnes · 13 Dec 2011 at 07:56

Yea, in this case, the 1098S wins hands down between the 2.

Putting the deposit down today, very excited!

Hopefully, Sunday will be the day

I am just buying a few bits and bobs to perform my own service as the dealers only do oil and filters, so I need new plugs. Not sure about belts, they said they were done last year, but think I would rather know I got new ones on there. It has brand new tyres. A few other things I will do. Most likely strip it down next week and give it a once over my self.

Although I have every bit of faith in the dealer. Not to mention I have been using these dealers for parts, advice and a few tweaks here and there so know they are reliable, but I also found out the previous owner is a good friend of mine from a Ducati forum and he is also a good friend of the sales guy I was speaking to yesterday!

So I know the 1098S will be in tip top condition as Simon was a perfectionist.

Bargain of the century if you ask me.

agnes · 13 Dec 2011 at 10:40

eidolon said:
Shame you couldn't have bought it from him rather than through the dealer, would've been cheaper!

Yea

At the time the forums were offline I think hence I had no sight of him selling it.

Forums are down again so will be a nice shock for him to know I picked it up haha, he traded it in for a Multistrada :eek:

agnes · 14 Dec 2011 at 08:17

Well, I went to see it and now I know she is mine I will post up the advertisement pictures

So no one else will snap it up hehe.

I put down the deposit last night, hopefully pick it up on the weekend

The main selling points for me was the sheer amount of extras the previous owner has installed. The wheels alone cost £2000, not to mention the Renthal sprocket carrier and Tsubaki chain, all the CF tinsel as well. Absolute tons of extras. And all original parts replaced comes in 2 boxes hehe! Bargain of the century if you ask me.

agnes · 14 Dec 2011 at 10:01

Never owned anything but a Ducati

Ducati 748E (binned)
Ducati 748S (still own)
Ducati Hypermotard 796 (sold)

And now going to be a...

Ducati 1098S

YEA BABY!

agnes · 15 Dec 2011 at 10:21

sloth said:
Sweet jesus... it's beautiful. Enjoy!

Yarp!!!! Shall do, so many extras, I just want to get it home and out in the sun asap!!!

agnes · 15 Dec 2011 at 11:08

4T5 said:
Gorgeous enough to have in your house as an ornament, Uber cool & a Bazillion man points awarded.

Ooooo, man points!

I have to admit, I am like a child right now at work, I work with 5 other guys as part of a in house IT team, none of these geeks know about bikes so me talking about it every 5 mins has become rather dull and now to the point that when I mention it, I have to get a round of tea in... I love tea... So that has backfired

Either way, 2 boxes of spare goodies come with it as well... All day sunday will be spent riding

agnes · 15 Dec 2011 at 11:16

4T5 said:
You wait till they hear that dry clutch there'll swear it's knackered.

Already been through that with them on my 748, which has no clutch cover at all, all snazzed out with a very sexy pressure plate, springs and collars. So it makes one hell of a rattle

agnes · 15 Dec 2011 at 11:33

Jesus! That is awsome! But so dangerous, but so funny...

Your smiley combinations is exactly what I would have expressed haha.

agnes · 19 Dec 2011 at 22:28

Bike safe and sound at home...

3 moans though!

1) Weather was ****! Tipping it down

40 odd miles in it was nogt fun, couldn't see a thing on the M3!

2) Between 2,5k revs and 4k revs, holding the throttle between that range seems to make the bike jerk a lot! Might be me, might be the chain, either way, something needs to be adjusted.

3) The DDA USB stick is MISSING!!!!! I got back hoping to stick the USB and become all geeky looking at results from my first ride... Nope, not plugged in under the cowel, not with my extras ect ect. Going to be phoning first thing tomorrow thats for sure!

I need to really get the bike out in the dry before I put a full opinion down on it.

Can't deny the power delivery is something else, pulling from 70 in 6th gear is just too much fun!!! Even made the rear fish hehe

agnes · 20 Dec 2011 at 07:26

4T5 said:
First ride out in the rain with all those torques must have been hair raising to say the least.
It's warming up Wednesday so not long to wait for a decent tyre warming session.
Oh & of course More pics.

Taking it to work today in the hop that the sun will dry up the roads enough for a little blast this evening after work. I'm impatient

And yes, very hair raising lol.

agnes · 20 Dec 2011 at 08:17

Everyone, this is Tink, Tink, this is everyone

agnes · 20 Dec 2011 at 09:11

Well, at the after leaving my house, about 3 miles down the road, at traffic lights, blipped the throttle and the bike cut out.

So yea, something is playing foul here.

I will check the plugs on the weekend, my understanding is it has been sat in the dealership for a long time, they stuck it on the optimate and it was green all over the board so can't be the battery.

Not to mention, it has **** fuel in it at the moment, Morrisons own bog standard unleaded. Not the crispy tasty Shell V Power I normally use

agnes · 20 Dec 2011 at 20:30

edd1e said:
looks great but you're not helping my stereo type attitude towards Italian metal

It's ok, used to it by now, as I have never owned anything other than Ducati's, my mates R6 felt as though it was always out of breath, my mates GSXR1000 was just noise with no 'umph'. Don't even get me started on the VFR 800.

I have come to hate 2 things already though that need sorting asap.

The front brakes are going to kill me very soon lol, they are either off or on, no progressive braking to be had at all! Which annoys me for 2 reasons, 1 being I am so used to a bit of 'sponge' before locking up. Nothing like a jap bike as even my old 748 came with braided hoses as standard 11 years ago lol.

Secondly, the 'switch' for the brake light doesn't come on until I am far too close to full lock out of my liking...

Anyway, the other thing that needs sorting is like I said previously, I think the chain is far too loose, the bike jerks like a mofo when going slowly. I will have to have a proper look but according to the ECU thats in the bike, it's the correct one for the termi's...

Oh, had a nice blast today

I cannot wait until the first fully dry sunny day hits!