Dumb/Lazy White British

Explain how the BBC article is racist? It is a statement of fact, by definition is cannot be racist. The BBC didn't say anything about white British being lazy or dumb, that was the OP.

To imply that an entire ethnicity of people is x and y is racist.

It is also non sense, there are millions of white british who are not dumb and lazy, obviously. It is just a ridiculous racist argument coming out the left at the moment to try and counter the anti-eu anti-massimigration. The entire argument is fallacious and design to play up the value of immigrants by downplaying the value of native white british.
 
It went fast. Why isn't this one deleted as well? no wait.....

Its quite telling that this thread isn’t deleted yet after 3 pages.. change white for black on that title regardless of the content and it would be deleted. That simple fact alone makes this racist.


both threads are deliberately insulting and they divide people at a time when everyone needs to stand together.
 
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To imply that an entire ethnicity of people is x and y is racist.

It is also non sense, there are millions of white british who are not dumb and lazy, obviously. It is just a ridiculous racist argument coming out the left at the moment to try and counter the anti-eu anti-massimigration

Again, where does the BBC article state that ALL white British people are lazy or dumb? It doesn't!

Hopefully the average British white person has better English comprehension than you do.
 
Again, where does the BBC article state that ALL white British people are lazy or dumb? It doesn't!

Hopefully the average British white person has better English comprehension than you do.

Did the DM article say all black people are criminals? I didn't get to read it and cba with searching the dm site. (Because i'm white, lazy and dumb)
 
Did the DM article say all black people are criminals? I didn't get to read it and cba with searching the dm site. (Because i'm white, lazy and dumb)

Did I say it did?

The other thread wasn't deleted because of the DM article. If the DM made that claim they would be prosecuted.
 
Lots of the others suck as :



So why does some of the OP suck? :p
I did carefully word it to say "we're not doing much better", which implies that unlike educational performance, White British are about average rather than behind the curve, but yeah this was a relatively lazy OP, its GD not SC afterall :p
Way to spin the figures the way you want them to read and to misrepresent data sets.

Why not post about the part where they admit over the long-term migrants are a net drain?
Why not post about the part where the "native Brits are terrible value for money for the tax payer" actually included a massive amount of writing off debt?
Why not draw some other conclusions that you can from those figures?
Why even try and compare London to Newcastle - London is like a different country in fairness to the rest of the country?

London Newcastle is compared in the article directly, but I didn't understand why that direct comparison was made either, as you say they're pretty much as different as UK cities can get.

Back to the ficals, from the actual report:
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EU immigration is positive because a large amount of them go back home, and are replaced by newer arrivals, meaning the costs of old age and childcare are not borne by the UK. non-EU immigrants acheive pretty much tax payers parity with the natives, despite having much more children, and thus (it can reasonable be assumed) a higher direct cost.
So I go back to my point in the OP. White British are under acheiving. Why?
OP's girl friend sucks

Well she sure ain't lazy ;)

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Care to explain the context behind the personal attacks here chaps? I don't mind the abuse, but I just don't see where its coming from.
 
I did carefully word it to say "we're not doing much better", which implies that unlike educational performance, White British are about average rather than behind the curve, but yeah this was a relatively lazy OP, its GD not SC afterall :p


London Newcastle is compared in the article directly, but I didn't understand why that direct comparison was made either, as you say they're pretty much as different as UK cities can get.

Back to the ficals, from the actual report:
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EU immigration is positive because a large amount of them go back home, and are replaced by newer arrivals, meaning the costs of old age and childcare are not borne by the UK. non-EU immigrants acheive pretty much tax payers parity with the natives, despite having much more children, and thus (it can reasonable be assumed) a higher direct cost.
So I go back to my point in the OP. White British are under acheiving. Why?





Care to explain the context behind the personal attacks here chaps? I don't mind the abuse, but I just don't see where its coming from.

Sure.

Thread title. You can lie all you want about why you wrote it, but it was deliberately inflammatory and we all know there is a glib smugness behind it.

So, if your going to be narrow minded then so are others..
 
Sure.

Thread title. You can lie all you want about why you wrote it, but it was deliberately inflammatory and we all know there is a deliberate smugness behind it.

So, if your going to be narrow minded then so are others..
It was meant to provoke debate sure, but smuggness? I'm a white UKIP voter.
 
Again, where does the BBC article state that ALL white British people are lazy or dumb? It doesn't!

Hopefully the average British white person has better English comprehension than you do.

Of course the BBC spins it with "diversity" but what they are realy getting at is exactly what the op has said. The bbc article says that diversity is directly responsible for better performance of white British in london. I would argue the opposite, the influx of mass immigration has led to decline in performance of white british in london, because of the increase in the amount of languages and the often lower intelligence level of immigrants which brings down the performance of white british. Historically white british in london has always performed better on aggregate than the rest of the country. The study has tried to use this long term trend by saying that it is the diversity responsible for it. It is a racist theory. There is no diversity in the rest of the country? It just makes no sense what ever way you look at it.

The study author basically set out to find statistics to agree with his pro mass immigration pro eu opinions.
 
Did I say it did?

The other thread wasn't deleted because of the DM article. If the DM made that claim they would be prosecuted.

What he is trying to say, and a few others;

two threads created.
both linking a newspaper article with figures.
One highlighted a trend amoungst blacks.
other highlighted a trend amoungst whites.
Black thread was deleted.
Why?
 
Of course the BBC spins it with "diversity" but what they are realy getting at is exactly what the op has said. The bbc article says that diversity is directly responsible for better performance of white British in london. I would argue the opposite, the influx of mass immigration has led to decline in performance if white british in london because of increase in the amount of languages and the often lower intelligence level of immigrants which brings down the performance of white british. Historically london has always performed better on aggregate than the rest of the country in the way the study has tried to use this long term trend by saying that it is the diversity responsible for it. It is a racist theory. There is no diversity in the rest of the country? It just makes no sense what ever way you look at it.

The study author basically set out to find statistics to agree with his pro mass immigration pro eu opinions.

yet the UKIP voting OP is against this so im guessing the original post really was to get peoples goat and actually its played right into the hands of UKIPers because the Admin has shown a real bias here through the kinds of political correctness everyone ( apart from the far left ) is starting to hate.


should it be deleted or perhaps kept to show the real hypocrisy of ocuk admin here.. ?
 
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The real take home message form the article is this:
There is nothing inherently different in the ability of pupils from different ethnic backgrounds, but the children of relatively recent immigrants typically have greater hopes and expectations of education, and are, on average, more likely to be engaged with their school work.

The question is, how can we help the the average white British child to be as motivated as the immigrant children who, on average, put a greater value on education?


I know from my experience at school there were plenty of children that did not see the value of eduction, were uninterested in learning, and bullied those who tried hard or did well in exams. That is an attitude that needs to change if the gap in performance is to reduce. IMO, this goes straight back to their parents who must instill such value upon their children really.
 
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