DX11 to be announced in 2~ weeks, nvidia to talk about it too...

Durzel · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:21

DX11 will be Vista/Windows 7 only anyway, so might as well upgrade sooner rather than later.

DX11 won't be out until at least 2009 anyway so it's not really something to get worked up over. Most people here would've changed graphics cards at least twice by that time.

Seldarine · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:23

Fire Wizard said:
Hello Seldarine, are you referring to "file transfer speeds"? If so, since Windows Vista service pack 1, I was unaware that it was still such a big issue that you can label Windows Vista a disaster based on it....

You may be unaware, but have you actually tested it ?

As far as im aware with SP1 file transfers were speeded up by something like 15 to 25% depending on the situation. They were something like 100% slower than on XP to begin with.

Greebo · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:25

Seldarine said:
You may be unaware, but have you actually tested it ?

As far as im aware with SP1 file transfers were speeded up by something like 15 to 25% depending on the situation. They were something like 100% slower than on XP to begin with.

Slower than that. I have both and my vista is SP1 now. It has improved things but still a joke.

Give me dos anyday

bledd · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:26

how come say Half Life 1 runs tons better in opengl than directx, is it just loads more efficient?

Greebo · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:27

Durzel said:
DX11 won't be out until at least 2009 anyway .

And the first dx11 proper game will be out by 2011 then and by then ATI will have DX11.1 cards out anyway

Seldarine · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:29

Greebo said:
And the first dx11 proper game will be out by 2011 then and by then ATI will have DX11.1 cards out anyway

but I thought NVIDIA and ATI are going to be dead and everyone will be using microsoft LOLabee chips by then ?

BubbySoup · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:30

Greebo said:
Slower than that. I have both and my vista is SP1 now. It has improved things but still a joke.

Give me dos anyday

Gogo, xcopy

On topic, why bother with DX11 anyway? We all know Assassin's Creed III will be patched up to remove 11.1 performance features

Darkwave · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:30

Seldarine said:
but I thought NVIDIA and ATI are going to be dead and everyone will be using microsoft LOLabee chips by then ?

Errrrr, do you actually think Larabee is going to have a game-worthy GPU?

In fact do you think it's even been announced as such, or even remotely hinted as such?

Seldarine · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:34

Ulfhedjinn said:
Errrrr, do you actually think the Larabee is going to be a game-worthy GPU?

In fact do you think it's even been announced as such, or even remotely hinted as such?

Well my sentance had sarcastic undertones

but aparently the debut larabee chip is going to be a 45nm part with 32 remodeled P5 cores ( pentium 2 ) that aparently will produce aprox 4 petaflop floating point performance. If im correct that will be about twice as powerfull as the upcoming 4870X2.

So if larabee came out right now it would be awesome, but in 2 years I am sure NVIDIA and ATI cards will be far more than double thier current performance.

RizlaKing · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:41

Vista is a disaster is it and here i have been using it for over a year with zero problems and actually finding my system more stable then it was under xp how stupid do i feel now finding out from someone that it is so bad i will uninstall it immediately :rolleyes:

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Darkwave · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:57

Seldarine said:
Well my sentance had sarcastic undertones but aparently the debut larabee chip is going to be a 45nm part with 32 remodeled P5 cores ( pentium 2 ) that aparently will produce aprox 4 petaflop floating point performance. If im correct that will be about twice as powerfull as the upcoming 4870X2.

So if larabee came out right now it would be awesome, but in 2 years I am sure NVIDIA and ATI cards will be far more than double thier current performance.

Theoretical performance yes, its performance doing graphics work won't come close.

It'll probably be as powerful as your average onboard graphics chip.

Strife212 · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:57

Ulfhedjinn said:
Errrrr, do you actually think Larabee is going to have a game-worthy GPU?

In fact do you think it's even been announced as such, or even remotely hinted as such?

Yes, they are saying it will crush ATI and nVidia, now do I think it will be worthy, that is a different question, I think it will be dire.

Greebo · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:59

RizlaKing said:
Vista is a disaster is it and here i have been using it for over a year with zero problems and actually finding my system more stable then it was under xp how stupid do i feel now finding out from someone that it is so bad i will uninstall it immediately .

Total agree. Back to Dos 6.0 for you then.

Broken Hope · 9 Jul 2008 at 16:59

bledd. said:
how come say Half Life 1 runs tons better in opengl than directx, is it just loads more efficient?

Probably because Half Life 1 was based on the Quake engine as far as I know and the DirectX path was added on afterwards.

Seldarine · 9 Jul 2008 at 17:03

RizlaKing said:
Vista is a disaster is it and here i have been using it for over a year with zero problems and actually finding my system more stable then it was under xp how stupid do i feel now finding out from someone that it is so bad i will uninstall it immediately .

Well I must admit that with Vista, as with most new shiny things the general consumer public is more than happy and uses marketing hype and shiny UI to base thier views rather than actual performance facts and figures.

mrk · 9 Jul 2008 at 17:05

Seldarine said:
Well I must admit that with Vista, as with most new shiny things the general consumer public is more than happy and uses marketing hype and shiny UI to base thier views rather than actual performance facts and figures.

Vista has lots its shiny new feeling along time ago as it's 1.5yrs old now. fact is drivers are now at a level where stability and performance can be realised in Vista general usage performance and memory management.

Darkwave · 9 Jul 2008 at 17:07

Strife212 said:
Yes, they are saying it will crush ATI and nVidia, now do I think it will be worthy, that is a different question, I think it will be dire.

Do you have a source for Intel saying this?

I am sure they mean it'll crush their integrated chips, or at best the low-end graphics cards.

LoadsaMoney · 9 Jul 2008 at 17:13

Nvidia won't be doing Dx10.1 afterall according to Fud., they are going straight to Dx11.

thegoonden · 9 Jul 2008 at 17:15

OH FFS!

I was about to buy a 4870x2 as soon as they came out.
No flaming point now if it's gonna be old tech in a few months.

Good old macroshaft, messing it up for everyone again.

reflux · 9 Jul 2008 at 17:17

I used to think Vista was rubbish. And then I tried it for the fifth time and actually decided I quite liked it.

It's a step forward from XP in some areas, a step backward in others.

But anyway, yeah, DX11....excuse me, have we actually seen a single decent DX10 game yet? No. And all the DX10 games look nearly as good under DX9. M$ can get lost, and if they roll DX11 out with Windows 7, Linux is going to take over the world.