Get an ebike and you can be even slower by adding weight and not using the motor. Win win!
E-bike snobbery
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Get an ebike and you can be even slower by adding weight and not using the motor. Win win!
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why cant people just enjoy ebikes how they want to enjoy them without other peoples snobbery and judginess....... this worlds in enough **** as it is, without all this extra nonsense about ebikes.
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I'm hoping to get a new ebike this year.
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Whilst I wasn't overly analogue snobby about riders of e-bikes originally, I did poo-poo the notion of getting one a bit and held off getting one. When I did relent, I throughly enjoyed it, and still do. I'd say it got me back into cycling more, and now I ride more overall, and enjoy riding the analogue ones more too.
Cant be bothered about the snobbery around bikes ... buy what you wanted enjoy riding it.
Cant be bothered about the snobbery around bikes ... buy what you wanted enjoy riding it.
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I nearly bought one of https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/electrical-assistance-road-bike-e-edr-af-105-2x11s-red/335142/m8654837 last year, currently ~£1800, before I got a similar spec GT eGrade Bolt for ~£1250 from PaulsCycles. The supplied battery only has 248Wh capacity, but I got some ~50 mle ~3000 feet rides out of mine while using max 250W assist on ~250+ feet hills and putting in ~250W myself at ~95Kg. Now got a Mahle SP1 battery extender that adds another ~208Wh capacity for an extra ~1.6Kg, but yet see how much further it gets me.
I just need to wait for these Canyons to be affordable. At 12kg it's not too heavy to be problematic even without battery assistance!
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why?Another part of my soul has died
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I think I there's some issue with CE/UKCA marking an ebike frame set, iirc the EMC testing has to be done in the contest of a whole bike under load so you can't test just a frame.
Thats a bit 2nd hand information but I don't think that you'll see many ebikes being sold as frame only as a result.
Whether it's sensible is another question as a lot of people can and will change components all the time.
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Had a quick look at those regs,
- must have a ‘continuous rated power’ output of no more than 250 watts
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ok I'll bite.....
That bike mentioned above is a 'proper' road bike. Not really a city commuter, deliveroo style bike, or something that could benefit from having a battery. That bike (genre), in my eyes, is for your hobby cyclist.
Why does it need a motor? It's just another thing that needs batteries, it'll last a while, then get thrown in a tip. More unnecessary waste.
EVs I get, we need a solution to fossil fuels ending etc. But I simply do not get the need to put motors in bicycles (for most scenarios they are used for). UNLESS.......you're injured, less abled etc, and they help you get back into it.
Happy to hear the reasons people find them appealing - but I really think I'll never get it.
That bike mentioned above is a 'proper' road bike. Not really a city commuter, deliveroo style bike, or something that could benefit from having a battery. That bike (genre), in my eyes, is for your hobby cyclist.
Why does it need a motor? It's just another thing that needs batteries, it'll last a while, then get thrown in a tip. More unnecessary waste.
EVs I get, we need a solution to fossil fuels ending etc. But I simply do not get the need to put motors in bicycles (for most scenarios they are used for). UNLESS.......you're injured, less abled etc, and they help you get back into it.
Happy to hear the reasons people find them appealing - but I really think I'll never get it.
You can ride further or you can ride uphill faster. It makes it easier. That's pretty much it, nothing complex.
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I think you're overthinking this. We are trying to move people away from cars because our roads are congested and active travel is vital to alleviate that along with a huge host of other benefits that active travel has outside of exercise (even e-bikes require some effort). Anything that gets people active and outside is good. Plenty of people just want to get from A-B quickly and easily. Other people will want to see their local area and a bike that is racier and more exciting to ride will get them doing that. Perhaps they even realise eventually they don't need the motor.
Honestly, I have zero issue with anyone riding a legal ebike. Motors in road bikes is no different from people buying performance cars despite there being far more sensible options for their needs. Very little in life is about common sense and need, a lot is simply about buying and image and a lifestyle but if that means more people on bikes. Good.
Not everyone can ride all day especially in hilly areas, so they want a road bike with some extra assistance for the journey. I cant understand why it bothers people so much unless its some sort of superiority complex thing.
I think the only thing holding me back is the question of how much i'd use it, as most times i'd want the fitness benefit of the full length ride. If i was retired though and that bike let me do 100 mile routes pretty multiple times a week then it'd be awesome.
There's a few things coming out now which are modular that you attach to the bike rather than a fully installed motor. That's probably the dream so you don't have an expensive electric bike barely being used.
There's a few things coming out now which are modular that you attach to the bike rather than a fully installed motor. That's probably the dream so you don't have an expensive electric bike barely being used.
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can still ride it without the motor switched on.....then when your tired, switch it on for the help. bike still gets used and best of both worlds scenario
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you dont need to get it, as they dont appeal to you, but they do appeal to others.