Yeah, and if they had a device that allowed them to drink coffee at their desk instead of taking any breaks at all, would you advocate it?
E-Cigarettes in the work place.
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Yeah, and if they had a device that allowed them to drink coffee at their desk instead of taking any breaks at all, would you advocate it?
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Super fresh. *ahhhhhh*
I put the granules in my mouth and pour the boiling water into my throat. Is that not what I'm supposed to do?
I was referring to a personal coffee machine or something that would negate the need for a break to retrieve fresh coffee/tea though. Just to be clear.
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Soooooo... getting back to the OP. I've asked people not to use them in the office as it looks unprofessional. Like wearing shorts... or flip-flops 
I think it would make the company's electricity bill to go through the roof if everyone had their own coffee machine. They would also require a yearly PAT test which is extra cost. We have dedicated water heaters located in vairous areas in office kitchens and eating areas on the shop floor. It takes a maximum of 1 minute I'd say for any person working here to visit a water heater, fill their cup and return to their place of work.
You should really get yourself a mug. OcUK sells them, for convenience.
Okay, bad analogy. Point taken. You do understand the point of it though? Vaping negates the need for cigarette breaks. Tell me how that is a bad thing.
My gf knows to always put my tea in the OcUK mug
As long as what you were getting paid for was done, I honestly would not have an issue with it. The moment work was not getting done, or there was serious issues with productivity, then you remove the source of the problem.
Okay, bad analogy. Point taken. You do understand the point of it though? Vaping negates the need for cigarette breaks. Tell me how that is a bad thing.
My gf knows to always put my tea in the OcUK mug
I do fully understand where you are coming from yes and it would solve the problem of people going off for nicotine hits. My point was that if this addiction is to the point it is affecting your life, which it would be if you can't go from starting work to an official break time, then you as a person need to deal with this.
Smoking these days isn't seem in the same light as what it used to be. In my opinion it would make the work place look unprofessional with people using e-cigs in either office or on shop floor. Do you not think it bad that people cannot work for periods of time without 'needing' the nicotine? I know it is a lifestyle that people choose but that is what it is. If the rules at work are no smoking breaks inbetween normal breaks then surely you must see that the problem lies with the employee?
I agree that there are times vaping is inappropriate. I never vaped on the shop floor when I worked in retail, and I don't vape in meetings out of respect to the chair, it would just be rude. I fail to see what harm I'm causing if I sit at my desk vaping while I'm cracking on with other work though.
Perhaps a better analogy would be if you banned caffeinated drinks in the office, allowing only water or juice. "Get your coffee on your breaks if you need your caffeine, you should be able to make it through the day without it anyway". You would be perfectly within your rights to do so, but what would it really achieve?
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If those were the rules then those would be what I adhered to. I'm not addicted to caffeine so I'd have no problem. I am sure there would be people in my office / workplace that would struggle with this however.
Do customers never come into your office? As an engineer we frequently have visitors from other companies so we need to maintain a professional environment.
Maybe over time and more research carried out on what is given off by e-cigs people will be educated as to whether what is given off is harmful or not. If it is deemed non harmful then maybe companies will end up relaxing the rules as it will become more acceptable to do around other people. So it is highly likely that whilst sat at your desk vaping you are causing no harm but you sadly don't get to make the rules so you have to put up with what they are
Do customers never come into your office? As an engineer we frequently have visitors from other companies so we need to maintain a professional environment.
Maybe over time and more research carried out on what is given off by e-cigs people will be educated as to whether what is given off is harmful or not. If it is deemed non harmful then maybe companies will end up relaxing the rules as it will become more acceptable to do around other people. So it is highly likely that whilst sat at your desk vaping you are causing no harm but you sadly don't get to make the rules so you have to put up with what they are
If those were the rules then those would be what I adhered to. I'm not addicted to caffeine so I'd have no problem. I am sure there would be people in my office / workplace that would struggle with this however.
Do customers never come into your office? As an engineer we frequently have visitors from other companies so we need to maintain a professional environment.
Maybe over time and more research carried out on what is given off by e-cigs people will be educated as to whether what is given off is harmful or not. If it is deemed non harmful then maybe companies will end up relaxing the rules as it will become more acceptable to do around other people. So it is highly likely that whilst sat at your desk vaping you are causing no harm but you sadly don't get to make the rules so you have to put up with what they are
No, we don't have clients in the office. I would understand a ban on e-cigs if customers were going to be present though. Hell, I don't vape if the MD is visiting.
I do not like smoking at all, never have done never will do. I have seen what fags have done to my dad and because of this (rightly or wrongly) I have associated E-cigs with normal cigs.
My reasons are twofold: one, I don't want to have to explain it, and two, I don't want to get on the radar of the man running the show as "that guy with the e-cig" and would prefer to be "that guy who does a great job" instead.
He has only ever graced us with his presence twice, but we're all on best behaviour when he does. That means studiously staring at our monitors like we're very very busy. I wouldn't go get a cup of coffee or play a game of pool if he was there either, even on my break!
I flat out refused to work with a guy for a couple of days when he decided to start with e-cigs. I get that they're not as bad for others as normal cigs, but it was the principal of it. Before we moved into our new building, we had the room where the staff were, and the clients were in the room next to it with a glass window running most of the length of the wall. I didn't want to be associated with him in that scenario so for 3 days I made a habit of finding work else where around the office.
It doesn't help that the guy doesn't really wash, always smells of stale cigs and is in general, the most vile smelling human being i've ever met. The fact that he would vape in clear view of clients was the straw that broke the camels back I guess, but i'm uncomfortable with it regardless, given that we always sat about a foot apart for 2 hours at a time and he would be at it constantly.
Of course, 3 days after he started, he lost the thing and gave up looking for it and went back to normal cigs which made the whole exercise of proving his point of 'It's great and cheap' irrelevant.
It doesn't help that the guy doesn't really wash, always smells of stale cigs and is in general, the most vile smelling human being i've ever met. The fact that he would vape in clear view of clients was the straw that broke the camels back I guess, but i'm uncomfortable with it regardless, given that we always sat about a foot apart for 2 hours at a time and he would be at it constantly.
Of course, 3 days after he started, he lost the thing and gave up looking for it and went back to normal cigs which made the whole exercise of proving his point of 'It's great and cheap' irrelevant.