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E2200 out !!

SDK^ said:
P4’s had longer pipelines so did much less per clock cycle than a Core 2 Duo
A 1.8GHz Pentium Dual Core (2160) can sometimes even beat a Pentium D 960 at 3.6 GHz and it uses much less power - they are more efficient :)
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ah that makes sence... so i assume that a 'clock cycle' is like rpm on a car and the GHz is like a gear??? cuz im unsure on some of these terms :)
 
QlimaxUK said:
i remain a little sceptical about all this new core2duo, i cant help but feel technology is moving backwards in a way since the pentium 4 managed to go all the way upto 3.6 Ghz at stock levels (maybe more i havnt checked) and these c2d are just about getting past the 2 ghz mark (im aware they make 3 GHz c2d's but there expensive!!!!) im only talkin about the cheap ones. since i paid £140 for my p4 that was a little longer then a year ago, so i still want to keep it in a way :) i dont like overclocking cuz iv never done it before so im a little worried about damaging it and also how long it will last after being oc'ed
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What:confused:
Ive got a £55 Core2 E2180 clocked to 3.3ghz easily and it will do a 17 second SuperPi, That is faster than a stock QX6850 (£587) and only just behind a stock Xeon E5462 (£499).
 
The amount of clock cycles a processor does and GHz are one and the same. Clock cycles refers to the processor's frequency, measured in hertz. Now, for example a 1Ghz processor is running at 1*10^9, or 10,000,000,00Hz. But different processor architectures can do more stuff in a single clock cycle (1Hz), or may get limited by the speed at which they can access memory or do certain calculations. Processors are a complex beast, and no single number will ever accurately denote its performance. I'd go through cache, memory bandwidth, various different execution units and such but that's so very out of the depth of this thread.
 
pegasus1 said:
What:confused:
Ive got a £55 Core2 E2180 clocked to 3.3ghz easily and it will do a 17 second SuperPi, That is faster than a stock QX6850 (£587) and only just behind a stock Xeon E5462 (£499).
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just downlaoded superpi lol :) did 512k in 19s and 1m in 44s so far
 
done up2 4m that took 3m 54 :) i was bored and needed summot to do lol
i gave up at 8 mill

at a guess id say 32m would take about 35 - 40 minutes LOL
 
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I'll be interested to see what these overclock to but I'm pretty sure it will be no different than other e2**0 CPU's. I imagine the only benefit would be to a user whose motherboard max's out at a lowish FSB. Maybe it has something to do with intel seeing what high overclocks people are achieving on this family of processor. I'm more than happy with my e2180 @3.2 ghz. It will do a bit more but gains a lot of heat beyond this speed, even 3.3ghz gains about +10c under load and beyond that wants more vcore so i don't bother. Having said that, at the price the e2200 would still be a very good buy for anyone.
 
mame said:
I'll be interested to see what these overclock to but I'm pretty sure it will be no different than other e2**0 CPU's. I imagine the only benefit would be to a user whose motherboard max's out at a lowish FSB. Maybe it has something to do with intel seeing what high overclocks people are achieving on this family of processor. I'm more than happy with my e2180 @3.2 ghz. It will do a bit more but gains a lot of heat beyond this speed, even 3.3ghz gains about +10c under load and beyond that wants more vcore so i don't bother. Having said that, at the price the e2200 would still be a very good buy for anyone.
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thats why im interested in the e2200... HEAT! i dont oc but am i right in assuming that the higher the Ghz to start with the less hot it will get compared to lower Ghz cpu's when oc'ed??? because i want to hold on the this cpu for as long as possible!
 
QlimaxUK said:
thats why im interested in the e2200... HEAT! i dont oc but am i right in assuming that the higher the Ghz to start with the less hot it will get compared to lower Ghz cpu's when oc'ed??? because i want to hold on the this cpu for as long as possible!
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well i think to people who don't overclock, the e2**0 arn't such a good buy. Still a good CPU though. From what i have read (and done) to not overclock one would be a great loss. When i had athlon 64's the main heat factor seemed to come from vcore and not the final clock speed itself but my e2180 seems to be the oppsosite. Overclocking can be a bit daunting at first but its not that hard. core2duo's are really simple to OC. The first time you have windows BSOD on loading or your system not even POST can be scary but you soon get past this and start enjoying a CPU and performs much better than the price you paid for it. IMO the e2**0's are the one processor you just can't not overclock. To people who don't dare overclock, you should follow some of the many guides slowley to 3ghz and leave it at that (unless you get hooked!)
 
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QlimaxUK said:
so im guessing a freezer 7 will be in my best interests if i buy this cpu then?
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Better cooling is always good but if you spend £50 on a cpu + HSF and can reach say, 3.2ghz. To then spend another £20 and reach ~3.35ghz it may be not so good on price/performance.
 
QlimaxUK said:
thats why im interested in the e2200... HEAT! i dont oc but am i right in assuming that the higher the Ghz to start with the less hot it will get compared to lower Ghz cpu's when oc'ed??? because i want to hold on the this cpu for as long as possible!
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the e2xx0 are just all pre-over/under clocked versions of eachother, exactly the same chip, just a different multiplier.
 
mame said:
Better cooling is always good but if you spend £50 on a cpu + HSF and can reach say, 3.2ghz. To then spend another £20 and reach ~3.35ghz it may be not so good on price/performance.
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£55 for a 2180 and a tenner for an AC pro, that will get you 3.3ghz.
 
Don't forget if your planning to upgrade your old Presshot to an E-Series chip, your mobo my not support it if its from the Netburst era...

Good chip tho, but i'd still go for the E2140 :-)
 
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