Eagle F1 Asymmetric: Not Impressed!!

Housey said:
I ran PS2's on both my M's and my GT3 and thought they were a very good tyre and the Mk2 PS2's were an improvement over the Mk1's that came with my first M3. I rate the PS2's (no matter what a few magazines might imply) as I feel they suit a high performance car and have the strongest sidewall out there I understand. However, they are bloody pricy and I didn't think £90 a corner over the GY's was a good use of my money right now, though hindsight suggests I might be wrong. The P Zero's on the RS4 seemed to work well but I will give the GY's a few more miles before I make a final judgement.
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Oh cool - I get mine from Costco. They have occasional offers on where you get 20% off if you buy four (which as you can imagine knocks a huge amount off). I run them on my 318 and did on my 330.

Very good on the road, brilliant on the track and hold up very well to track abuse.
 
What happens with the F1's is that Goodyear supply them to super leet drivers with a teflon coating and the magazines get super dodgy sticky ones you cant really buy in the shops. It's all a huge conspiracy designed to make us buy Michilen Pilot Sports, which are in league with the insurance companies to make us all crash into the car in front when braking on wet motorways :eek:
 
Housey said:
I drove a couple of the new M3's recently (John Thorney's modded car and a mates manual coupe) and also did a back to back with my RS4 and a loan car from my local BMW dealer on the same roads in the same conditions a few weeks back and I think the RS4 is a better all round road car. It's not quite as quick and the engine in the M3 is more special but cross country and certainly in the wet you would find the RS4 in a different league. It simply puts its power down, in any conditions and in any weather with ease, it is quite simply astonishing on this front. It is also a very easy car to drive quickly and is pretty safe and viceless. Sure it understeers when pushed hard and feels nose heavy but its a very clever and very quick road car.

I'd take both Porsches over one however and I think I'd probably take an M3 over one as I think the RS4 lacks a certain something I can't put my finger on but being totally objective, as a road car, it craps over the others from a great height in all round ability....but its not as special.
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Thanks, very useful. My only concern with the Porsches, cayman particularly, just wont feel quick enough. Cayman 300ish, 911 380ish?.

I imagine its the intangibles that will eventually make my mind up so need to go drive some.
 
:p Quite a few coming out of hiding now to say they didn't get along with these, including me.

I had some Eagles on a mk1 mx5, they're a good tyre especially in the wet, just I didn't find them that inspiring in the dry when going for a blat. Much prefer the Michelin Pilots on my mk2 mx5 now, corners in a much more positive manner when pushing on.

However I'm no car journo, nor do I have equipment to record results of different tyres in all conditions to determine what is the best 'performing' tyre. For me the feedback you get back is very important, and as long as you're not buying cheap rubbish it shouldn't be found lacking when in an emergency either.
 
I posted the same question on RS246.com in the B7 RS4 section and it seems my experience fits with everyone elses. People are suggesting they take around 1000 miles to settle and then come good and I am a bit away from that yet so I will give them time and re-evaluate them then. Currently, they are poor and noisy compared to the PZeros and that is a fact.
 
spoonz said:
Thanks, very useful. My only concern with the Porsches, cayman particularly, just wont feel quick enough. Cayman 300ish, 911 380ish?.

I imagine its the intangibles that will eventually make my mind up so need to go drive some.
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C2S is quicker than an M3 or an RS4 and a Cayman S is pretty close. Porsche horses are always better than others horses, they just are.
 
Housey said:
C2S is quicker than an M3 or an RS4 and a Cayman S is pretty close. Porsche horses are always better than others horses, they just are.
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Yep, just looked up the bhp/tonne

Cayman S 237
RS4 255
M3 250
C2S 249

Much of a muchness on paper, not interested in 0-60's anyway.

Its now down to character and feel i think.
 
as housey will tell you though the RS4 is probably more like 200bhp/tonne!

if you think the M3 it tail happy and you are worried by that then i would be worried by the porsche's! they may feel more planted but if they do let the back go then you will need more skill to get it back due to MR / RR layout than in the M3.

one of the major buying points for me on the M3 is the FR layout and I have regularly looked at the other cars on your list but keep coming back to M cars mainly for this reason.
 
I found the F1 Asymmetrics took a while to bed in but after that they are excelent tyres. I've currently got some Falken FK452's on the back of my 530 and wish I hadn't - they're awful in the wet and not as grippy in the dry. Will be going back to F1's when they're worn.
 
TomO said:
as housey will tell you though the RS4 is probably more like 200bhp/tonne!

if you think the M3 it tail happy and you are worried by that then i would be worried by the porsche's! they may feel more planted but if they do let the back go then you will need more skill to get it back due to MR / RR layout than in the M3.

one of the major buying points for me on the M3 is the FR layout and I have regularly looked at the other cars on your list but keep coming back to M cars mainly for this reason.
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Only when modded or else it's around 50bhp per tonne! The B7 RS4, well mine at least is slightly quicker than an E46 M3, I mean very slightly to. At the top end of the scale it pulls harder but up to 100mph it's a nats arse. Mine is actually shows at the top end off the RR numbers!

Thing that makes the RS4 so quick cross country is how planted it feels, how well damped it is, absorbing ruts, bumps and undulations so well and how well it deploys it's horses, which is where it has an M3 bested. As tomO says the 911 is also very quick but should you need to loose speed quickly, when the wheel is not dead straight a 911 is not the car you want to be in, not least if it's a bumpy or off camber road as it will bite you and make you dead if your not fully on top of it.

RS4 is by far the easiest cat to drive quickly and will protect you most which is why it is so capable, but as I have said before this doesn't, for me, make it the most attracive.
 
Put four on the RS in May (always had GSD3s on before that) and they took about 800 miles to bed in, they were utterly awful for that 800 miles though; I had absolutely no trust in the car at all when cornering. Can't fault them now though, they feel as good as I remember the GSD3s being.
 
Well to be fair they do seem to be improving with miles, I gave them a stretch cross country today (Uttoxeter to Abbots Bromley if anyone knows it) and they seemed to offer up some more grip. Still a noisy tyre compared to the P-Zero's mind and the pressures were as I had requested when checked too.
 
Everyone has good reports of F1 assymetrics that we sell, strange usually people complain of bridgestones being noisy!
by the way R means radial, and ZR means anything over 150mph+ if its V, or W, Y they all have a specific speed rating
 
They have improved yes and their wet weather grip is very good, feeling more secure at turn in than the P-Zero's did, but they are a noisy tyre.
 
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