Caporegime
Because cdkeys are parasitic scum that harm game developers and thrive on fraud?
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Because cdkeys are parasitic scum that harm game developers and thrive on fraud?
Caporegime
Personally I don't go in for them; I'd rather play a completed game. The only game I bought on Early Access was Grip, and that was because I'm friends with the guys who made it and I wanted to support them. However, if you understand what they're about and want to have more input into how a game finally turns out or really can't wait to get your hands on the game then I don't think there's anything wrong with them and a lot of people really like them. I guess if you've more time to play they make more sense, but for me I don't have that much time to play and I don't want to spend it with something that hasn't been polished to its absolute best.
Soldato
Erm, what?
Soldato
I've done about 3. Minecraft £7 in 2011 Kerbal Space Programme £12 or so in 2013 pre steam, The Forest £?. All games I paid not much money and I used a worst case assumption they would not get developed any further to inform my decision as to whether it is worth it or not.
I am very cautious about early access games as some games have clearly been abandoned by developers or are very basic unity engine "stock asset" quick jobs to get a few quid in
I am very cautious about early access games as some games have clearly been abandoned by developers or are very basic unity engine "stock asset" quick jobs to get a few quid in
Soldato
I think my earliest EA game was Minecraft, that I purchased for some £12 or so. Probably the best, longest surviving game in my gaming career as I played it and the modded versions for years since. Also purchased The Forest as a drunk purchase - I haven't been back to this since the EA days.
No Mans Sky on launch was my third EA game and the one which literally made me request a refund 30mins in. With the money I got back I purchased Subnautica that was in EA and this was pretty much the best example of an EA title done right. It was fully playable with very minor bugs encountered. I try and avoid these types of games since though.
No Mans Sky on launch was my third EA game and the one which literally made me request a refund 30mins in. With the money I got back I purchased Subnautica that was in EA and this was pretty much the best example of an EA title done right. It was fully playable with very minor bugs encountered. I try and avoid these types of games since though.
Soldato
I've got a couple:
Beseiged, which I got my money's worth from. It's pretty great fun even if the core 'game' is thin. The building is great.
and Slap City, which I'm not sure I'm into. But I think that's more that I'm not digging the Smash Bros genre (never actually played any before), rather than an issue with the game itself.
Both were about £3 each, so was never a big deal if they turned out crap.
Beseiged, which I got my money's worth from. It's pretty great fun even if the core 'game' is thin. The building is great.
and Slap City, which I'm not sure I'm into. But I think that's more that I'm not digging the Smash Bros genre (never actually played any before), rather than an issue with the game itself.
Both were about £3 each, so was never a big deal if they turned out crap.
Soldato
Yes but read reviews.
Caporegime
I'm sorry, I realise that I was confusing cdkeys with other less reputable resellers: cdkeys are merely parasitic scum that harm game developers and not parasitic scum that harm game developers and thrive on fraud.
Happy to make the correction.
No, plenty of other failed released games i can waste my money on.
Typical of the me me me generation being exploited, whats more scary is this then becomes the Norm and in another 10 years people will be backing just the idea for something to generate interest to start the actual work then another early access to do the work.... backmyThought.com
Typical of the me me me generation being exploited, whats more scary is this then becomes the Norm and in another 10 years people will be backing just the idea for something to generate interest to start the actual work then another early access to do the work.... backmyThought.com
Soldato
It's more in keeping with the more personalised nature of consumers' relationship with artists. Younger generation likes to bypass The System to support more directly the creatives that make it all happen. See also Patreon etc, Kickstarter and such.
There's a gamble involved in it, to some extent, but when was it ever different? It's not like you could trust magazine reviews back in the day. We all bought some utter turkeys.
I will only buy an Early Access game if it is currently at a stage of the development where I am happy with the game, and any additions is an added bonus.
SQUAD is a great example of this, I love it on day 1 of Early Access. (Although I am glad that vehicles were added eventually)
SQUAD is a great example of this, I love it on day 1 of Early Access. (Although I am glad that vehicles were added eventually)
Not the same thing, a review is just that and probably a little more honest "back in the day" before free review samples etc were given out willy nilly like now. Pre-access is just a symptom of i want it now you can fluff it up with personalised nature of consumers all you want.
Nothing wrong with that by the way, hell we all waste money somewhere unless your on the breadline, I just tend waste mine on something that works. I.E BEER
Soldato
Forgot about Beseiged until it was mentioned here, that's one I went in on and it was absolutely worth it's low cost.
Minecraft I'd more than got my money out of, don't really touch it now but before all the bells and whistles were added it was great.
Rust... I got a night of play from this and then just couldn't really be bothered with it. Mild regret with that one.
After the joy of Terraria, I bought Starbound but wasn't hyped at all with it.
I'm sure there are others, but a bit of a mixed bag for me. I'd say early access can easy be worth it, but there's the danger of being burned out on the game by the time it's finally released.
Minecraft I'd more than got my money out of, don't really touch it now but before all the bells and whistles were added it was great.
Rust... I got a night of play from this and then just couldn't really be bothered with it. Mild regret with that one.
After the joy of Terraria, I bought Starbound but wasn't hyped at all with it.
I'm sure there are others, but a bit of a mixed bag for me. I'd say early access can easy be worth it, but there's the danger of being burned out on the game by the time it's finally released.
Soldato
Nonsense bro. Check out the Rise of the Robots reviews for a nice sample of the bull-poo that used to go on.
95% from one Amiga magazine, 90% from another...... and 5% from the legendary Amiga Power. Guess which was most accurate?
More latterly (2006 ish) Jeff Gerstman was sacked from Gamespot for giving Kane & Lynch a poor review, after publisher pressure.
I dont think reviews have ever been all that honest, I remember on more than one occasion when a magazine was subject to some very suspicious under the table deals regarding positive reviews (yes, I am looking at you PCZone).
For me, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't pay road tax, I don't pay fuel, I don't pay car insurance. So a few quid for a really brilliant early access title is fine with me
For me, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't pay road tax, I don't pay fuel, I don't pay car insurance. So a few quid for a really brilliant early access title is fine with me
Soldato
Bought Subnautica, even in it's earliest state it was immensely playable and hugely enjoyable. I've played it all the way through to release and put a hundred or so hours into it.
Subnautica is a text book example of early access done right.
On the other hand I also bought DayZ standalone
My thoughts exactly. I put off getting Subnautica for months as I’d had my early access fingers burned by DayZ SA.
First time I played through Subnautica, it didn’t have an ending and I loved every moment of it.
I have to disagree here. Publishers could easily limit key sales or bring in geo blocks and while some do, many don’t. If a game is available at a reduced cost elsewhere and works globally, why should we get ripped off from an official source such as Steam or Origin when a key is available from another country at a reduced price for exactly the same game? The publisher still gets the sale, the developer still gets their cut and the consumer pays less for their game. Everyone’s happy. Except you apparently.
Soldato
Typically no, i despise the business model and wish it would die.
Then I got Subnautica and it blew me away.
Then i tried Oxygen Not Included, which is also great.
So essentially i avoid Early Access unless i've seen proof that it's playable and constantly updated. Even then, I could happily have waited for both Subnautica and ONI to be released as full games and paid more.
Then I got Subnautica and it blew me away.
Then i tried Oxygen Not Included, which is also great.
So essentially i avoid Early Access unless i've seen proof that it's playable and constantly updated. Even then, I could happily have waited for both Subnautica and ONI to be released as full games and paid more.
The reviews in Zzap64! were great and pretty much spot on, Everything since then has been downhill.
I still do not get it or understand the mindset of wanting to play something unfinished. Its like going to the movies and watching the first 10 mins, misses the middle, and 3 just before the ending really starts, then the credits come up saying Thanks comeback in 4 months for the finished film.
It is just weird and quirk of being an ultra nerd.
I still do not get it or understand the mindset of wanting to play something unfinished. Its like going to the movies and watching the first 10 mins, misses the middle, and 3 just before the ending really starts, then the credits come up saying Thanks comeback in 4 months for the finished film.
It is just weird and quirk of being an ultra nerd.