Ebay/PP scum

Em3bbs · 8 Jun 2016 at 16:04

Haggisman said:
Yes, but IMO it shouldn't operate like that; by doing so, ebay effectively force private sellers to operate as if they were a business.

I'm sure it's great for small businesses starting out, a huge market to sell on with low overheads/advertising expenditure, but for individuals wanting to get rid of old secondhand bits and pieces, its not really that good anymore

I still find it a lot better than the old days, when you had to advertise stuff for a pittance in the local paper/newsagent window!

Drangueos · 8 Jun 2016 at 16:23

Once I sold 2 7950s on ebay, but I was really suspicious about the that, because the price it went was for more than it would cost brand new.

I've made a video of the cards working being marked, packaged and taken to the post office.
Also I did some detective job, searching the buyers name on the electoral roll, facebook and etc... found him and some of his family so it was looking as a genuine buyer.

At the end was everything ok, but I was ********* myself thinking that was a scam.

So now I prefer to sell on MM or elsewhere if they come to collect and pay cash.

But since he already have the board I would do what schizo said.

linktoinsanity · 8 Jun 2016 at 16:25

Unfortunately Ebay is great for buying (sometimes), but selling is a huge risk these days.

I have sold successfully in the past, but would not do so now.

Tefal · 8 Jun 2016 at 16:35

Haggisman said:
It's still a lot more proof than the buyer has to provide...

It usually goes something like:

Buyer: "this item is broken"
Seller: "well it was fine when I posted it"
Ebay: "it must be broken, the buyer said so" *issues refund*

Nope its no proof at all.

The buyer on the other hand has a faulty product thats real good proof

Wang Computer · 8 Jun 2016 at 16:43

eBay, at least on the face of it, used to be an online community of people selling possessions they no longer needed. Since then, it seems to have gradually moved to a more 'shopping website' type model where the individual, non-business seller are mere fodder. I haven't sold anything on there for a while.

davewhite04 · 8 Jun 2016 at 18:02

I sold a Dark Souls 3 key(I already owned it).

Sent info through eBay.

PayPal case, basically PayPal took the money out of my account and told me to wait till dispute resolved. They tell me her credit card company said the payment wasn't authorised, so lost £30 in a second.

Reported to eBay. NOTHING back.

Slowly moving completely over to Amazon Market(but I collect rare Neo Geo stuff, which is the problem).

PayPal account closed, by me.

Lesson, do not sell keys on eBay, get proof of postage. Don't use eBay or PayPal if possible.

Sudden · 8 Jun 2016 at 18:45

Chargebacks are a credit card thing though - PayPal doesn't have any control over that?

koolpc · 8 Jun 2016 at 18:58

Ebay........................Run!!!!

horrorwood · 8 Jun 2016 at 19:13

Arazi said:
The only way this is going to change is not buy the smaller sellers or businesses complaining but the very large companies on eBay kicking off when they start looking into their own stats of their trading on eBay to see how much they have been or are being scammed on eBay.

Only then will something start to change, eBay isn't what it was 10+ years ago.

Sorry but I highly doubt it unfortunately.

I sell over £1m per year on eBay, I have exactly the same complaints as others on this thread/forum.

Do not even think about selling motherboards on eBay/Amazon. I had a load of BRAND NEW (!!) motherboards bought cheaply, lost count of the amount that were returned with damaged pins.

Amazon will let you refund minus 50%... sometimes they will cover it all too...

Ebay... No chance.

RaohNS · 8 Jun 2016 at 19:23

Never used eBay other than from reputable sellers but then I am honest.

My friend fairly recently sold sets of magazines on there for a princely sum I might add. They tried to scam him (magazines were worth £500+) buyer then bought another set similar price and then my mate had the same.

He didn't get scammed as PP and eBay sided with him.

Haggisman · 8 Jun 2016 at 20:06

Tefal said:
The buyer on the other hand has a faulty product thats real good proof

That's proof of nothing, where did they get that faulty product?

I could go fish e.g. a broken monitor out of a skip, buy a working one of the same model on eBay, then claim it turned up broken and return the one I pulled out of the skip, yay, free monitor

Boge · 8 Jun 2016 at 20:28

I sell over £1m per year on eBay

Blimey. There I was thinking,just the other day when i looked and found out that I'd shifted £65 Grands worth of stuff that I no longer needed in 200 deals over 15 years.

Granted some of it was due to high end hifi - Naim , Linn etc but it was mostly in the hundreds rather than thousands.

Jeez though. Millions?

spoffle · 8 Jun 2016 at 20:42

Tefal said:
Nope its no proof at all.

The buyer on the other hand has a faulty product thats real good proof

That's not really proof either. It's fairly easy to make something appear faulty.

You're not being logically consistent.

horrorwood · 8 Jun 2016 at 21:05

Boge said:
Blimey. There I was thinking,just the other day when i looked and found out that I'd shifted £65 Grands worth of stuff that I no longer needed in 200 deals over 15 years.

Granted some of it was due to high end hifi - Naim , Linn etc but it was mostly in the hundreds rather than thousands.

Jeez though. Millions?

Well yes, its the difference between buying things with the only intention of reselling them on eBay and just selling your own old stuff!

Locky · 8 Jun 2016 at 21:14

I would never sell anything on ebay other than things that get cash collected. Scam central.

Tefal · 8 Jun 2016 at 21:31

spoffle said:
That's not really proof either. It's fairly easy to make something appear faulty.

You're not being logically consistent.

But ebay have to make a choice and its the buyer giving them the money.

They have a faulty product they can prove exists at least the seller with all thier pics and uv and video has no proof they actually sent that item.

fendi · 8 Jun 2016 at 21:53

can't you request a refund from the courier when the item returns?

just provide the cancellation message from ebay that it is faulty and u refunded the buyer.

spoffle · 8 Jun 2016 at 22:53

Tefal said:
But ebay have to make a choice and its the buyer giving them the money.

They have a faulty product they can prove exists at least the seller with all thier pics and uv and video has no proof they actually sent that item.

How do they prove it exists and is faulty?

Haggisman · 9 Jun 2016 at 07:01

Tefal said:
But ebay have to make a choice and its the buyer giving them the money.

I've never had to pay eBay a penny as a buyer :confused:

Tefal said:
They have a faulty product they can prove exists at least the seller with all thier pics and uv and video has no proof they actually sent that item.

I have plenty of broken things in my shed, that doesn't mean I bought them off eBay...

Vern1961 · 9 Jun 2016 at 08:20

Just a thought, I presume Ebay do monitor buyers who make a habit of frequently pushing returns or refunds and flag them for too many instances in a set period?