EBay Scam - not seen this one before

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I just wanted to share an eBay scam that I hadn’t seen before.

I bought an item ~£500 from a private seller at the weekend. A decent price but not too good to be true. On Monday I received the tracking confirmation and it was posted using tracked 48 (not what I’d use for an item of that value). On Tuesday I receive a Royal Mail email from eBay (the label was purchased through eBay) notifying me that it will be delivered on Wednesday (I.e. today). So far nothing out of the ordinary.

However, last night I received a notification from eBay that the transaction had been refunded out of the blue. I didn’t think much of it, a bit annoying but not the end of the world. I sent the seller a polite message asking why it was cancelled and I was told they “didn’t think it would arrive in time so cancelled the transaction, however if I still wanted it they would relist for the original amount”. No thank you.

I then started to receive increasingly threatening emails stating that they refunded me accidentally, I have stolen the item and not paid for it and it will be arriving tomorrow. I’m given a Revolut link and told to pay them or return the item. I ignored the messages but they became more and more threatening, including threatening court action ().

I contacted eBay this morning and they are looking in to it. They suggest I raised it with the police due to it being a fraud/extortion.

It will be very interesting to see what arrives today. If I can speak to the postman I’ll suggest he returns it to sender and reject the delivery. That’s probably the easiest way to resolve the issue as they won’t have successfully delivered the item.
 
What they sent you probably isn’t the thing you bought and it’s just a brick and they want you to pay outside of eBay before it arrives.

The thing arrives and it’s a brick but you’ve now paid outside of eBay and that’s tough.

If you’ve got your money back, accept the delivery hand it to the police. High risk fraud.

Are you sure the RM emails are legit?
 
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I expect he printed the label to get a tracking number, never sent the item (that probably doesnt exist anyway) then just hopes he can get someone to pay him £500 into his bank for nothing.
 
100% sure the tracking is legit, it’s the same tracking number on the ebay order and Royal Mail, I can see it’s at the local delivery office and due for delivery today.

My thoughts are the same, it won’t be the actual item but something of a similar weight. Either way I don’t want to accept it.

I’ve told the seller I have reported him to eBay/police and won’t be engaging any further. He told me it was a mistake to refund me and how, and I quote, “you know you are in the wrong as you just got a <item> and your money back”.
 
If you have a doorbell cam I would record getting it, and opening it on the camera clearly. Or use your phone
 
This is why I don't use Ebay.

Do you mean eBay, or private sellers on eBay?

Because a massive amount of stuff on eBay is legit and from business sellers.

There isn't anything wrong with eBay if you avoid dodgy seeming private sellers.
 
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What they sent you probably isn’t the thing you bought and it’s just a brick and they want you to pay outside of eBay before it arrives.

The thing arrives and it’s a brick but you’ve now paid outside of eBay and that’s tough.

If you’ve got your money back, accept the delivery hand it to the police. High risk fraud.

I imagine this is it too.

Can't think of any other reason why the seller would do what he has done and say what he said.
 
You're crazy spending £500 on eBay... Basically asking to be scammed.

Wouldn't buy anything more than £20 on there.
I disagree, I buy and sell a lot of things but very rarely have any issues. This one seemed slight unusual and not something I have heard of before.

If you have a doorbell cam I would record getting it, and opening it on the camera clearly. Or use your phone
I’ll admit I’m slightly intrigued to see what’s in the package but part of me thinks it’s easier just to reject it and move on. If it does get delivered before I can reject it then I think your advice to record it being opened is spot on.
 
Quite possibly. When was the last feedback?
As a seller within the last year, as a buyer more frequently. They have history of selling some lower value items (car parts etc) and have bought some items too. There are also some other items for sale currently too, not necessarily anything to raise suspicion.

Although if you check completed items there are a few similar high value items sold in the past few weeks. Chances are I may not be alone.
 
This is nonsense. It might be high risk to sell. But there's no issue with buying.

I sell and buy all the time and have only had an issue once that was dodgy and because I was buyer it was fine.
Clearly it's not nonsense, try reading the thread. Or multiple other threads on here, or other forums, with buyers being scammed.

It's been fine... Until it's not.

I used to even sell fake stuff in eBay myself years ago, was easy money at the time. To think because you're a buyer you are fine is incredibly naive, must be a new eBay user.
 
Clearly it's not nonsense, try reading the thread. Or multiple other threads on here, or other forums, with buyers being scammed.

It's been fine... Until it's not.

I used to even sell fake stuff in eBay myself years ago, was easy money at the time. To think because you're a buyer you are fine is incredibly naive, must be a new eBay user.
There are millions of successful transactions.
My buys+sells probably are at 1500 but now. I've had one issue in all that time that was difficult. But it was resolved.

Be careful looking at anecdotal evidence.
 
Being a private seller, I wonder if they've sold enough items to have experience of eBay and Paypal fees? It could be that the shock of the Paypal fees has made them refund you and ask you to pay by other means. Not that I agree with what they have done, as they should have done their own research first before selling.
 
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