Ebola scaremongering?

jsmoke said:
Just finished reading, 'The Hot Zone', very good, recommend it, you will learn quite a few things if you do, fairly scientific, seems they had a serum in the 1980's.

Another interesting point, the virus can only last independently for 10 days then it 'dies?', which takes us to the question where does it host itself. Bats they think.
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I started reading it this weekend, am up to the chapter on the Washington Reston strain. I agree with Stephen Kings quote on the cover, its also the scariest book I've ever read.

Whilst the media scare mongering part is undoubtedly true, there's a section in the book regarding an outbreak of the Ebola Sudan strain in the mid 70's and an infected nurse who'd been treating victims then ignoring the symptoms seemingly out of denial and dragging herself round a populated city to various hospitals ( Kinsasha in Zaire ) and the subsequent panic once the World Health Organisation realized what had happened.

All seems very reminiscent of the current situation, except now its potentially even easier for people to travel long distances. Scary stuff.
 
scorza said:
It's all OK now, they've found a 'cure' :rolleyes:

http://i100.independent.co.uk/artic...athic-treatment-for-ebola-article--l1qdO2Pazg
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So this is a natural "cure" but vaccines are a government conspiracy to give you autism.

Naturalnews, infowars, globalresearch, veterenstoday, beforeitsnews, abovetopsecret... the stories that get spread around from all these kind of sites are a big part of why I can hardly be bothered with the internet any more. Can't even read zerohedge because of the ridiculous comment section and ads now. I used to enjoy a bit of tinfoil stuff back in the day for a laugh, like Rense and Zetatalk when it was relegated to the fringes.

Also how even proper news sites are copying buzzfeed and daily mail style clickbait spam "news". 10 things you need to know about blah blah blah **** off.
 
jsmoke said:
Possible case in Ireland, still not remotely bothered by this, smoking deaths, drugs deaths, road accidents, obesity/health, crime, Inluenze deaths, Malaria, Tuberculosis, snake bites, Jellyfish, suicide, war etc etc. You have more chance of choking to death on a wish bone...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nt-transferred-to-isolation-unit-9670550.html
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True, but it isn't the number of cases now, but the potential to spread (play plague inc. for a better idea :)). On that note, how quickly is it spreading at the moment?
 
jsmoke said:
Possible case in Ireland, still not remotely bothered by this, smoking deaths, drugs deaths, road accidents, obesity/health, crime, Inluenze deaths, Malaria, Tuberculosis, snake bites, Jellyfish, suicide, war etc etc. You have more chance of choking to death on a wish bone...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nt-transferred-to-isolation-unit-9670550.html
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Crazy comparison

Most of those are controllable or avoidable to some extent

I said it a while ago. This is the only bit of global news I am remotely interested in
Should be an easy thing to nip in the bud
But people are idiots
And with things like this.. It only takes one
 
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al4x said:
Crazy comparison

Most of those are controllable or avoidable to some extent

I said it a while ago. This is the only bit of global news I am remotely interested in
Should be an easy thing to nip in the bud
But people are idiots
And with things like this.. It only takes one
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And smoking/drinking are not avoidable?

Ebola is very avoidable. There are 4 strains, only the Reston strain is believed to be aerosol airborne yet ironically, maybe, it doesn't harm humans much although it devastates moneys/chimps.

So the other 3 strains are very controllable, however in Africa they have some specific burial/mourning rituals that involve touching/kissing dead bodies hence it spreads, you need to do some reading, try, 'The Hot Zone' then read, 'Panic in Level 4: Cannibals, Killer Viruses, and Other Journeys to the Edge of Science' both by Richard Preston.
 
badcompany said:
Who have now stated the number of cases as been grossly underestimated. It's a lot worse than we thought. :eek:
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Samritains Purse were saying this a week ago but it seemed that the news of this had to come from the WHO. This is really not surprising, often these are underestimates in countries where these sorts of diseases originate (see H7N9 in China)

jsmoke said:
Possible case in Ireland, still not remotely bothered by this, smoking deaths, drugs deaths, road accidents, obesity/health, crime, Inluenze deaths, Malaria, Tuberculosis, snake bites, Jellyfish, suicide, war etc etc. You have more chance of choking to death on a wish bone...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nt-transferred-to-isolation-unit-9670550.html
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Be prepared for a lot of these from around the world over the next few months and for some to turn out to be real, it is almost inevitable. We have already had two here; last week someone in Wales who have just come back from one of the countries (they will still be under close observation until next week) and then of that woman who died at the airport last week. One I know of in Singapore. There have been two already in Hong Kong, One in Morocco, one in China. these are stories I have picked up and are suspected cases, no clarification on whether they have come back positive, but I guess you would hear about it.

Porton Down have seen an increase in samples being sent to them since the start of July and nothing found yet. However this can change over night. While this maybe a scary situation, one thing we can take form this is that we are in one of the better prepared countries to deal with this sort of thing, in terms of awareness and infrastructure. Whether that infrastructure could be come overwhelmed; well everything can if you throw loads at it, but I think we could take quite a bit and have the funds and personnel to back up what is there should needs be. Hell, the guy who discovered the virus works at the London School of hygiene and tropical medicine.
 
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I actually didn't realize ebola (currently) was that 'difficult' to transmit
I assumed (idiot) that simply touching a door handle that someone with it had come into contact with was almost enough. I didn't realise it was more towards hiv (more transmisible but similar) in that it needs to be saliva etc.

On the face of it that does sound easy to control in UK. But if you have a reservoir of infection in Africa it will be a constant battle. But it does very much seem contain able in this form

I shall have a read tonight but is it virile enough to be transferred of someone coughs very near you and you inhale the vapor?
 
al4x said:
On the face of it that does sound easy to control in UK. But if you have a reservoir of infection in Africa it will be a constant battle. But it does very much seem contain able in this form

I shall have a read tonight but is it virile enough to be transferred of someone coughs very near you and you inhale the vapor?
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You would never have a "reservoir of infection" in Africa, as eventually it would kill so many people that everyone would just avoid the area literally like the plague. It would die out on it's own by killing almost everyone infected.

And no, it can't be transmitted by way of vapour. They would literally have to cough into your mouth, making sure saliva and/or mucus enters your body.
 
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MichaelAwkward said:
You would never have a "reservoir of infection" in Africa, as eventually it would kill so many people that everyone would just avoid the area literally like the plague. It would die out on it's own by killing almost everyone infected.

And no, it can't be transmitted by way of vapour. They would literally have to cough into your mouth, making sure saliva and/or mucus enters your body.
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Thanks. I didn't know how potent it was in regards to the number of viral units you need to receive to contract it.

If it's transmission method changes all that changes. Again I'm not aware of the mechanics or type of virus ebola is (hiv and influenza I know much more about)
 
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