Ebola scaremongering?

I like the disparity between the professional response and media whipped response:

"We have contingency plans in place which are well drilled and have a proven track record of success"

vs

"CLOSE THE BORDERS AND NUKE THEM FROM ORBIT!"
 
Maybe I'm being thick but when was the last time the nhs faced a contagion with such a high mortality rate?

Where's the track record they speak off?
 
Maybe I'm being thick but when was the last time the nhs faced a contagion with such a high mortality rate?

Where's the track record they speak off?

I think the fact that there hasn't been one is the justification they are using.

Seeing as how NHS nurses are continually getting disciplined after walking around after work in shops/cities with their uniform on, i'd say risks are high and standards are very low.
 
I like the disparity between the professional response and media whipped response:

"We have contingency plans in place which are well drilled and have a proven track record of success"

vs

"CLOSE THE BORDERS AND NUKE THEM FROM ORBIT!"

That pretty much describes this thread :D
 
I didn't even realise that was against the rules. Seems kinda weird if I'm honest.

Hmm proof of ability through lack of testing of ability. Scary prospect.
 
The problem with that professional view is the obvious failure in Spain and the US.

There are always breaches, the response is what matters. Working in an industry where continuity plans and risk management are God, I'm sure the processes are in place. Obviously there's always a worry around this being adhered to but to be honest I'm not overly concerned.

I think we need to keep an eye on our own soil whilst focussing most of the effort in the effected areas. The "close the borders and wait it out" response some are advocating is a recipe for disaster in my opinion.
 
Having read this way back in 1996, what is happening now is really no surprise. Unfortunately it's also not surprising that it has become as bad as it has. We aren't prepared to take extreme enough measures for dealing with diseases like this and we don't seem to plan ahead either.

There really should already be isolated internationally funded centres for treatment and study of diseases. Instead of people flying their own people back to treat them on the mainland transferring them between continents. As with all things though it costs money and would need coordinated efforts.... and that puts and end to that :p
 
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There really should already be isolated internationally funded centres for treatment and study of diseases. Instead of people flying their own people back to treat them on the mainland transferring them between continents. As with all things though it costs money and would need coordinated efforts.... and that puts and end to that :p

On top of that the areas where outbreaks are most likely to occur tend to be in less stable regions. It becomes a bit difficult to maintain regional bases in the face of war or political instability.

In principal of course you're absolutely correct.
 
I personally think its hugely irresponsible of our governments to not restrict air travel from West Africa.

1.\ Its already damaging our economy and our air industry. People are panicked. You'll find less and less people taking flights or turning up to work. This has already started happening, and there's only an outbreak of two. Wait to see what happens when that number turns into a couple of hundred. I do not know how many flights are arriving from Liberia everyday, but chances are more and more infected people will be arriving on our shores. Especially as they can incubate the virus for 21days.

2.\ Its not fair for our health workers. One sick person that was 'allowed' to freely travel from West Africa, and now two innocent nurses are at high risk of dying.

It's almost as if they'll learn from this mistake... AFTER the fact its happened. Oh remember the ebola outbreak from 2014/2015.. where the economy collapsed because of a few hundred infected people in the western world.

Seriously that's all its going to take ! a few hundred cases, and towns and cities will shut down !
 
I didn't even know mdr tb was a thing :eek:.

Actually it is far more worrying the ebola. I haven't had too much dealing with it but it is very difficult to treat. I think I am correct in saying someone on these forums works for a pharmaceutical company and they are directly involved in the research into it.
 
I personally think its hugely irresponsible of our governments to not restrict air travel from West Africa.

I personally think it's hugely responsible of our governments to not restrict air travel from West Africa

1) People will travel irrespective.
2) With permitted travel we are aware of their movements and those they come into contact with.
3) Therefore, we can trace a pattern of potential infection and pre-emptively deal with situations.
 
Iirc tb is treatable with a small selection of antibiotics but is still rather dangerous. It's transmission ability also make ebola look like a play thing. It's also one that you don't gain immunity from afaik.

If it's resistant to the antibiotics then that's bloody scary.
 
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