Ed Millibands lisp...

For someone who was wet behind the ears he was awfully good at wiping the floor with Blair at the majority of PMQs.
He didn't wipe the floor with Blair at the majority of PMQs. William did considerably better against Tony than John Major, Michael Howard and David Cameron combined, but Tony scored some of his greatest knock out blows in the Commons against him.
 
So you would take him seriously if he didn't have a lisp? :eek:

Labour are unelectable and will remain as such until the general populace begins to forget their reign of terror.
 
Cast your mind back to 1997 people. Tony Blair had lead a crashing victory, John Major resigned from the Conservative party leadership promptly and in a dignified manor.

What came next, well the Tories put William Hague in the hot seat. Not the William Hague we have now, but a wet behind the ears version. No one credible wanted the job. Because anyone credible wanted to stay out of the crossfire while the party sorted it's self out. I wasn't till Micheal Howard took the reigns that things really looked steady.

My guess is that the next serious Labour leader will be a front bencher from the Blair era.

and ironically, (to refer at least in passing to the subject matter of the thread ;)), one of Hague's biggest liabilities was his appearance, both visual and aural. There was an infamous picture of him wearing a baseball cap backwards that saw him caricatured as someone with insufficient gravitas to become PM, as well as a nasal accent that was just irritating to listen to. It might not be fair, but most politicans realise that these things do matter when looking for a highly visible office like PM.
 
He didn't wipe the floor with Blair at the majority of PMQs. William did considerably better against Tony than John Major, Michael Howard and David Cameron combined, but Tony scored some of his greatest knock out blows in the Commons against him.

I found Hague to be a better orator, a master of wit and still say he wiped the floor with Blair most of the time.

Blair had a huge majority to carry him along in those early years and perhaps that is where he got his dutch courage from but I thought he was easily rattled and Hague knew how to do that which wasn't bad considering the Tories were an almost decimated force then and hague was in his late thirties.
 
http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=Gordon_Brown&mpc=Kirkcaldy_and_Cowdenbeath&house=commons

Since election in 2010, he attended 3 votes out of 102, 2.9%

For comparison, Alistair Darling's attendance is above 50%.

Thanks for that Hatter le Mad.

Exactly as I thought. Theft as far as I am concerned.

However, unfortunately in that neck of Scotland you’re dealing with a certain type of ex mining communities forever emotionally tied to Labour and the pride they had in their 'PM'. Even though he done **** all for them, made things worse, and continues to do **** all for them. (Apart from threatening to get involved in Scottish politics against the SNP, which in all honesty would be the funniest show Labour could bring. Salmond would absolutely slaughter him in an equal theatre.)

But no, lets wave little new labour flags and balloons about the place and stick the fingers in the ears ignoring the failings of the party and its history.

These people have a disillusionment with 'socialism', as Labour are nothing like it.
 
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I don't think William hague is particularly a good thing in the rebranded Conservative party. It doesn't work, as his accent is just so alien to so many people in this country. I recognise its obviously somewhat his own personal quirk too, but I do believe it could have a negative reaction.
 
I don't think William hague is particularly a good thing in the rebranded Conservative party. It doesn't work, as his accent is just so alien to so many people in this country. I recognise its obviously somewhat his own personal quirk too, but I do believe it could have a negative reaction.
I judge him in a much more positive light than someone with an accent from around this area.

"Going townnnnn fa piiiiint."
 
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