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[mattyfez]

will you be able to high pass the speakers? Does that amp have bass management or does it cross speakers at 80hz, with low pass for the sub at 80hz?

Things like Wiim amp have bass management (or a AVR)

Not entirely sure, the amp just has a sub RCA pre-out.

That said the sub amp has a high frequency crossover cut off dial, if that's the correct phrase.
I think from memory I can set the on board subwoofer filter to about 150hz max high end cut off but obviously you'd never leave it that high and dial it down to a frequency where the bass on the stereo pair starts to drop off.

I can't remember what I've set the sub to, but I suspect I've naturally set it sub 100 hz, quite possibly round 80 hz but I'd have to pull the sub out to check the dials on the back.

 

[hornetstinger]

Not entirely sure, the amp just has a sub RCA pre-out.

That said the sub amp has a high frequency crossover cut off dial, if that's the correct phrase.
I think from memory I can set the on board subwoofer filter to about 150hz max high end cut off but obviously you'd never leave it that high and dial it down to a frequency where the bass on the stereo pair starts to drop off.

I can't remember what I've set the sub to, but I suspect I've naturally set it sub 100 hz, quite possibly round 80 hz but I'd have to pull the sub out to check the dials on the back.

Probably not high passed then- so speakers will be sent full range. Not ideal really, as using amp power to amplify frequencies those speakers can't reproduce. Probably I'd set no lower than 60hz on the speakers low pass. The amp manual will show specifics.

Also depends whether the sub out on the amp is filtered, or full range. You only want one low pass, so if the amp has one, then disable the one in the sub. If the amp sends full range, then use the one in the sub.

If you change the amp to Wiim Amp/Pro/Ultra that has this feature (and room correction as well) Some other amplifiers have high pass, Emotiva and Parasound, you'll see at the back dials or switches for the high pass and low pass settings

 

[mattyfez]

Probably not high passed then- so speakers will be sent full range. Not ideal really, as using amp power to amplify frequencies those speakers can't reproduce. Probably I'd set no lower than 60hz on the speakers low pass. The amp manual will show specifics.

Also depends whether the sub out on the amp is filtered, or full range. You only want one low pass, so if the amp has one, then disable the one in the sub. If the amp sends full range, then use the one in the sub.

If you change the amp to Wiim Amp/Pro/Ultra that has this feature (and room correction as well) Some other amplifiers have high pass, Emotiva and Parasound, you'll see at the back dials or switches for the high pass and low pass settings

Amp is a tangent ampster BT II, I'd have to look it up I guess as the standard spec documentation does not go into that much detail.

Presumably If the amp detects there's a sub on the pre-out it's just full range and relies on me having a sub with a high frequency cut off, but might cut low frequency to the stereo speakers, I Dunno but there is no mention of an active crossover on the amp spec

 

[hornetstinger]

Amp is a tangent ampster BT II, I'd have to look it up I guess as the standard spec documentation does not go into that much detail.

If it had high pass, it would be advertised with that. Here's screen of my Wiim Ultra streamer (streamer/preamp/DAC)

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I don't use the high pass feature (I use it elseware)

 

[mattyfez]

Sure... But it works fine as it is... The bookshelf speakers certainly aren't overwhelmed with sub bass so I have to assume the amp is 'recognising' there's a sub plugged in?

 

[hornetstinger]

Sure... But it works fine as it is... The bookshelf speakers certainly aren't overwhelmed with sub bass so I have to assume the amp is 'recognising' there's a sub plugged in?

No it won't recognise something is plugged in, it'll just be a "always on" downmixed signal, possibly set to specific low pass (manual should say what it is) Likely the speakers are being sent full range. If you had full range speakers, you can test this yourself, as pretty obvious when signal is bass managed on big speakers.

just downloaded the manual it doesn't have any info, you can test it if you plug the subwoofer into a line level source (then onto another speakers) play full range music, if you only heard <100hz or so, then you know the signal is low pass. If you hear the full frequency range, then output isn't filtered (so you would then use the subs own crossover)

 

[mattyfez]

yeah I've not tested it that way so I'll do that when I can be arsed... probably when the new ones arrive, is a good time to pratt about as the warfdales will be different to the tannoys I'm sure, so I'll have to re-calibrate anyway... It's never been an issue in my case, but it's an interesting test.