Edinson Cavani gets three match ban for not being racist

How terrible.

The FA enforcing agreements with its representatives on acceptable words to use in public to be read by their primarily english speaking audience, a minority of which are scum that give the whole crowd a bad name.
 
Hotwired said:
How terrible.

The FA enforcing agreements with its representatives on acceptable words to use in public to be read by their primarily english speaking audience, a minority of which are scum that give the whole crowd a bad name.
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To be read by their primarily english speaking audience when most of his followers are probably not english speaking and what he wrote was not in english. Thank god we are dealing with people who are not racist and haven't said anything racist though. Keep fighting the good fight FA.
 
I'm glad the FA have given up the fight on racism to start the real fight against those who don't speak English and aren't from our culture. Hopefully now Brexit has kicked in we can get rid of all these foreigners with their friendliness and words that sound a bit like another bad word and Make Britain Great Again.
 
It clearly wasn't meant to be racist but the rules are the rules. You can get smashed in this country and walk home without an issue, do that in Dubai and you're getting arrested. I don't agree with that but just because it's fine to do something in one country, doesn't make it fine to do it in another so rather than blame the FA, who had their hands tied, blame United for not educating Cavani.
 
fez said:
To be read by their primarily english speaking audience when most of his followers are probably not english speaking and what he wrote was not in english. Thank god we are dealing with people who are not racist and haven't said anything racist though. Keep fighting the good fight FA.
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Pretend to be ignorant about footballers representing their organisation in all matters of public communication :p

The lowest common denominator has always created an image problem for football so the FA gets out the extra large hammer for zero subtlety to enforce their family friendly and inclusive rules on everyone who wants to be involved.

There will always be some calling for the good old days of calling the black players ******* without being thrown out but times change and the FA nope list now includes foreign words which can be substitutes for traditional english racist terms.

Everyone signed their contracts, not being 100% about it is on them and their agents.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
You can get smashed in this country and walk home without an issue, do that in Dubai and you're getting arrested.
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Thats a biggie and one that you would be constantly told about. We are talking nuances in language. No one in their right mind would move to another country and think that a completely innocuous word spoken in their own language would get them suspended for sounding similar to a nasty word in their new country. If you got arrested in the UK for mentioning anything to do with race or colour then perhaps I would agree.

Hotwired said:
Everyone signed their contracts, not being 100% about it is on them and their agents.
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Would you like to be held to the small print of every contract you have ever signed and then be pulled up on a very very negative interpretation of what you have done in order to punish you?

I would imagine that the FA do's and don'ts manual is quite a long read.

If he had said something even vaguely racist I would agree with everything people are saying. Its fundamentally ridiculous and the FA are just making themselves look like pricks. So scared of being accused of racism that they are punishing a foreign player for their inability to understand that someones skin colour can be used without negative connotations.
 
fez said:
Would you like to be held to the small print of every contract you have ever signed and then be pulled up on a very very negative interpretation of what you have done in order to punish you?
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Hell of a contract if you're not going to enforce what it stands for. Actually worthless if not enforced.

fez said:
If he had said something even vaguely racist I would agree with everything people are saying. Its fundamentally ridiculous and the FA are just making themselves look like pricks. So scared of being accused of racism that they are punishing a foreign player for their inability to understand that someones skin colour can be used without negative connotations.
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I don't think it's wrong or right. If you want to enforce a rule you've made there's decisions to make on who to apply it to.

If you leave the door open for interpretations of intent to trigger punishment then the line you say you've drawn can be blurred and loopholes such as "its ok because you're black/foreign" will exist.

They've gone for punishing any instance of racism related terms so it's never acceptable for FA persons to say them and then they decide how severe the punishment should be depending on intent.

The result they get should be that there's no possibility of copycatting racist terms (from an english view) from FA persons because saying them for any reason gets punished.
 
Makes a mockery of the rule put in place tbh. Referring to race not apply with BLM then? Just defer to the long standing Kick It Out campaign for progressing ant-racism in football, cut out the racial references.

With reference to new guidelines agreed in the summer, it said the post was alleged to be "insulting and/or abusive and/or improper and/or brought the game into disrepute".

It was also alleged "that the comment constitutes an aggravated breach" which "included reference, whether express or implied, to colour and/or race and/or ethnic origin".
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Fubsy said:
Makes a mockery of the rule put in place tbh. Referring to race not apply with BLM then? Just defer to the long standing Kick It Out campaign for progressing ant-racism in football, cut out the racial references.
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How does it "make a mockery" of the rule in place when he literally broke the rule.
 
Shamikebab said:
I'm glad the FA have given up the fight on racism to start the real fight against those who don't speak English and aren't from our culture. Hopefully now Brexit has kicked in we can get rid of all these foreigners with their friendliness and words that sound a bit like another bad word and Make Britain Great Again.
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I've not been following this especially closely, but how is what Cavani did different to what Suarez did?
 
manic111 said:
I've not been following this especially closely, but how is what Cavani did different to what Suarez did?
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1. Cavani wasn't even talking to a black person, the word he used does not refer to race in his culture
2. Cavani was thanking a friend, Suarez was confronting an opponent.

It's all about context, there is nothing racist about the word black. I can describe my t-shirt as black and it's fine. But you can use it in a sentence (that I obviously won't write) in a racist manner.

In South America Negrito is not offensive. What we're saying here is that as soon as people move here they have to become fluent in our language, forget their own culture and have complete understanding of ours. It's xenophobic to the extreme and a sad sign of the Brexit means Brexit way this country is going.
 
Shamikebab said:
1. Cavani wasn't even talking to a black person, the word he used does not refer to race in his culture
2. Cavani was thanking a friend, Suarez was confronting an opponent.

It's all about context, there is nothing racist about the word black. I can describe my t-shirt as black and it's fine. But you can use it in a sentence (that I obviously won't write) in a racist manner.

In South America Negrito is not offensive. What we're saying here is that as soon as people move here they have to become fluent in our language, forget their own culture and have complete understanding of ours. It's xenophobic to the extreme and a sad sign of the Brexit means Brexit way this country is going.
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Yes because he hasnt lived in Europe for 10 years.
 
There seems to be some confusion in here in regards to what he said. He didn't simply say the word black, what he said translates to 'little blackie' and is often used in South America to describe both black people and white people with dark features.

It's something that is accepted as non offensive in South America so does that make it ok or are some of these South American countries just behind the times, in the same way 30+ years ago it was acceptable to refer to a corner shop over here in a particular way - a term that all non racists would now accept was wrong.

I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable if I heard somebody refer to a white person with dark featuresas 'little blackie'. At best it's ignorant, at worst they could harbour genuinely offensive beliefs.

What isn't surprising is that the ignorance is no excuse phrase that was thrown about by Utd supporters some years ago no longer applies today.
 
omnomnom said:
How does it "make a mockery" of the rule in place when he literally broke the rule.
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That rule is there to punish racist behaviour. It's just been used to ban a player in a way that in itself is not culturally sensitive.

He shouldn't have pleaded guilty though, as in the FAs history books he's now a racist that made racist remarks.

Has this rule and ban done anything to end racism in football? Or highlighted how good the sport actually is if this is the only "incident" this season?

Edit: also, how is it an 'aggrevated' breach, is that literally the mention on a skin tone? Then, are the FA saying to ignore skin tone as that's the opposite of what the BLM movement want. What a mess.
 
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