Electric bicycle rider taken off roads for one year

"Anyone riding an electrically-assisted bicycle more powerful that 250 watts or with a top speed of more than 15.5mph needs these documents."
so the point is he didn't have the documents, not that he was speeding. no idea why you can't grasp that concept. doesn't matter if his bike was capable of doign 200mph if he wasn't charged for speeding.
 
Bit of a stupid law

That just means you can ride your 1500watt bike till you get caught (THAT IF you get caught ;)) and then just limit it after

How stupid compared to speeding until you almost have enough tickets then obeying the law until they fall off.

Unless the penalty is death by removal of life you're going to be able to carry on as normal with the same vehicle you were breaking the law with... except legally...
 
Bit of a stupid law

That just means you can ride your 1500watt bike till you get caught (THAT IF you get caught ;)) and then just limit it if you do

He still got a fine. I imagine if he had a driving license he'd have got points put on it as well. It's no different than how car drivers are dealt with when they drive without insurance and tax.
 
Speed limit in Guernsey is 30 mph ish iirc, so you'd notice if a bicycle was tearing around at the top speed.

I'd imagine in most of the UK, you would just get away with it. I'd be wearing a BMX helmet as a minimum though!
 
The 15mph limit is an embarrassment to UK law when an oap can pedal faster than that on the flat and you quickly get to 40mph freewheeling down a hill. It's completely inconsistent with other laws. What about people riding horses on the road?
 
What about people riding horses on the road?

Horses require a 'passport' as documentation both when out riding on the road or just being transported i believe. While i dont know if there are any hard limits, i think taking a horse at galloping speeds would be viewed as dangerous for yourself and other road users. A horse just trotting along however is not particularly fast.
 
The 15mph limit is an embarrassment to UK law when an oap can pedal faster than that on the flat

It seems logical to me. It's set to a speed that an average person can cycle faster than on a flat road so they only use the electric assist on hills/headwinds. If it was set to a speed higher than most people could cycle, then they'd have the 'assist' on permanently and it then becomes a powered vehicle rather than an assisted bicycle.
 
The law needs changing. They want people out of cars and this is a growing tech that would suit a lot of people. No need for the power restriction just the speed and build more bike lanes separate to the road so people feel safer.

Oh and I bet he was being a **** cops do not care.


something like this was along the right lines IMO:

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shouldn't need a helmet as there is a seatbelt and safety cage... but the UK govt being rather slow decided it needs a helmet even though doing so just makes it more dangerous

the design isn't great, I guess people will say it is a bit "gay", but the general idea is pretty cool and some sort of bike with protection/seat belt albeit electric could be a good option for inner city commuting - there are way too many cars with single occupants on the road and conventional/bikes scooters are still fairly dangerous + require people to carry around a full set of leathers + helmet into the office
 
The 15mph limit is an embarrassment to UK law when an oap can pedal faster than that on the flat and you quickly get to 40mph freewheeling down a hill. It's completely inconsistent with other laws. What about people riding horses on the road?
I don't think horses should be allowed to do 30mph on public roads either.
 
Believe or not most cyclists can't sustain 15mph. Sure they can easily exceed that but they quickly drop down to about 12mph.
 
Is a trivial speed definition really what its about?

30mph is extremely rare to see on the roads using leg power and it's not really the bike but the cyclist... and gradient and wind assist...

On the other hand at some point an electric bike is putting out enough easy power to be considered to be a proper motor vehicle and some lines have to be drawn to describe when that is.

There's many legal descriptions which seem off but it has to be taken into context of where that energy is coming from.

Well yes to some extent, there's various arguments you could make for where the line should be.

My view is it should be set at being able to reach a higher speed than your average pedal power (that is to say to go faster then it's 100% legs)

On the one hand your right- there needs to be a line between a pushbike with a motor and a motorbike with pedals (like those stupid e-moped things you can find on t'internet). On the other, whats safer- someone calmly riding along at "top speed" under motor power or someone acheiving the same speed at maximum physical exertion.
 
Believe or not most cyclists can't sustain 15mph. Sure they can easily exceed that but they quickly drop down to about 12mph.
Depends on the cyclist. Most folk on a proper road bike can comfortably sustain 15mph or more - sometimes a lot more. Folk on hybrids are usually slowed, though, I'll grant you.
 
something like this was along the right lines IMO:

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shouldn't need a helmet as there is a seatbelt and safety cage... but the UK govt being rather slow decided it needs a helmet even though doing so just makes it more dangerous

the design isn't great, I guess people will say it is a bit "gay", but the general idea is pretty cool and some sort of bike with protection/seat belt albeit electric could be a good option for inner city commuting - there are way too many cars with single occupants on the road and conventional/bikes scooters are still fairly dangerous + require people to carry around a full set of leathers + helmet into the office
To big and bulky, I have no issue with the helmet bit. Just the power more than anything and a bit of a bump in max speed would be nice. 250w up a hill is not enough.
 
To big and bulky, I have no issue with the helmet bit. Just the power more than anything and a bit of a bump in max speed would be nice. 250w up a hill is not enough.

still smaller than a typical car though, re: power - I didn't mean that exact bike but that general idea, I'd agree that more power would be nice
 
The 15mph limit is an embarrassment to UK law when an oap can pedal faster than that on the flat and you quickly get to 40mph freewheeling down a hill. It's completely inconsistent with other laws. What about people riding horses on the road?

I've not seen any horses being pedalled or freewheeled faster than 40mph?
 
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