Soldato
Which isn't what this thread is about so you can happily leave now. Thanks for your contribution nonetheless.
Electric cars for people with no driveways
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Which isn't what this thread is about so you can happily leave now. Thanks for your contribution nonetheless.
Caporegime
Well the title is, "electric cars for ppl with no drive ways"
The solution is use hydrogen cell cars instead so they don't need to worry about having no driveway.
The solution is use hydrogen cell cars instead so they don't need to worry about having no driveway.
Good luck with that considering the hydrogen fuel is more expensive in addition to needing a more expensive car compared to ICE. They have been ‘a few years away’ from mass market for well over a decade and still have a good decade worth of development needed before they are even close to being fit for mass adoption. The infrastructure needed to support them is also an order of magnitude more complex and expensive than a BEV.
I can absolutely see them being used in heavy goods vehicles and coaches. They work well in those form factors because the fuel cells can be much larger meaning the materials needed to produce them are much cheaper and the fuel cell is less complex, it still doesn’t change that fact the fuel is incredibly inefficient and expensive to produce.
I can absolutely see them being used in heavy goods vehicles and coaches. They work well in those form factors because the fuel cells can be much larger meaning the materials needed to produce them are much cheaper and the fuel cell is less complex, it still doesn’t change that fact the fuel is incredibly inefficient and expensive to produce.
Soldato
I’ve never understood how they could be the answer. You have to use energy to make the hydrogen, use it to transport it to where it’s needed, store it.
the cars are more complex maybe?
One clever usage I did see of it was a hydrogen powered ev charger. Where there is no electricity supply such as the middle of nowhere just put one of these
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I'm talking about this part here in yellow and black
Weight when wet, in ice/under snow?
Someone has to carry it out, lay it down so its flat side down, at night, in darkness...
Fine until Sharon and her 5 kids all trip on it.
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Lets all get real for a moment. Charging at home without a driveway is a bit of a pain, but if you want to do it it’s possible, and there will hopefully be other solutions on the way soon.
Someone without a driveway who drives 200-300 miles per week needs to charge and EV once or twice a week, either at home or when out and about. This could be for 10-15 mins at an ultra-rapid charger, 30 mins at a rapid charger whilst you do your shopping, or a few hours in your work car park. This is a bit of a pain now, but it’s getting easier and will continue to do so as there are more and more public charge points. You could also charge at home if you have a solution available.
Your aged mother who drives 50 miles a week could charge for 20 minutes whilst doing her shopping or parked at the library or doing whatever aged mothers do.
Hydrogen is a complete non-starter for passenger cars. It is extremely inefficient and complex compared to the simplicity and efficiency of BEV. The only people peddling the hydrogen story are the people with a vested interest in maintaining that habit of driving to a forecourt and pumping expensive liquid into a car whilst they make a large profit from it.
Someone without a driveway who drives 200-300 miles per week needs to charge and EV once or twice a week, either at home or when out and about. This could be for 10-15 mins at an ultra-rapid charger, 30 mins at a rapid charger whilst you do your shopping, or a few hours in your work car park. This is a bit of a pain now, but it’s getting easier and will continue to do so as there are more and more public charge points. You could also charge at home if you have a solution available.
Your aged mother who drives 50 miles a week could charge for 20 minutes whilst doing her shopping or parked at the library or doing whatever aged mothers do.
Hydrogen is a complete non-starter for passenger cars. It is extremely inefficient and complex compared to the simplicity and efficiency of BEV. The only people peddling the hydrogen story are the people with a vested interest in maintaining that habit of driving to a forecourt and pumping expensive liquid into a car whilst they make a large profit from it.
Soldato
You do realise that it's not a case of 'can't be bothered', right? It's more a case of it being impossible to do so. But please, seeing as you're wise on these matters, could you explain to me just how I can plug in and charge an EV when...
Caporegime
Imagine 50 of them all down the street, like the hurdles.
I've heard of crash for cash gangs, they gonna have a field day with this.
if you look back in the - when electric thread.
one of the councils was cutting out a channel in the pavement and installing a pre-fomed concrete duct, presumably the same team doing dropped kerbs - could be a money spinner.
yellow snakes - quite a few primary children here use trotinettes/scooters getting to school, which their mothers then manhandle home after they're dropped off,
or if it were across a combo cycle track and I hit one on a 23mm tyre at 15mph, I be off; so there are times & places you couldn't use them.
one of the councils was cutting out a channel in the pavement and installing a pre-fomed concrete duct, presumably the same team doing dropped kerbs - could be a money spinner.
yellow snakes - quite a few primary children here use trotinettes/scooters getting to school, which their mothers then manhandle home after they're dropped off,
or if it were across a combo cycle track and I hit one on a 23mm tyre at 15mph, I be off; so there are times & places you couldn't use them.
Soldato
240V or 100,000V. Current is current and human skin resitance won’t really help. There nothing “only” about 240V nor is an EV significantly more.
It’s a cable, it doesn’t absorb water darling.
Soldato
240V or 100,000V. Current is current and human skin resitance won’t really help. There nothing “only” about 240V nor is an EV significantly more.
It’s a cable, it doesn’t absorb water darling.
Soldato
I know, but sadly it's just indicative of the state of this country's infrastructure. The closest charger of any kind to me is at a BMW dealership 1.2km away, and that's of no use because it's unusable outside of office hours.
I find it hilarious because all the houses around me have private drives and parking for like 10 cars yet we've got a high density of charging points in comparison much higher population density in areas around me, many of them dominated by on street parking, that have maybe 1 nearby charger and 2-3 within a 30 minute drive.
EDIT: Though that might be somewhat skewed by demographics in that people around here are probably more likely to be able to afford an electric car :s
Soldato
so they have to go to a filling station then just like they can with hydrocarbon fuel, electricity or Hydrogen and pay for the privilege. The none clowns can fill up at home with the single only option. Apparently only some houses can get Sky TV and there’s another cluster than can’t get Virgin media.
Who would have thought a product can’t meet the demands of every single person on planet Earth.
Soldato
This all seems so much easier than just calling in at the petrol station
but he wants a fast quiet car?
Soldato
What speed are theses charging points?
Soldato
This all seems so much easier than just calling in at the petrol station
I actually slightly regret getting a charger installed at home. I've used it maybe 4 times and done 2,000 miles. The only reason I regret it is cost vs usage, though I'm sure that'll even out over time, and it's certainly good to have as an emergency or backup.
In reality I've timed myself (out of interest) and it took 45 seconds to lay the covers down, get the cable out of the boot, plug it in and tuck the excess cable under the car. It really is a non-issue.
Got 5x 50kw then a bunch of 7-22kw ones. (And 1x 43).