Man of Honour
Are you on another planet?
I was talking about people like you!
I've never heard such scaremongering...
Electric cars for people with no driveways
- Thread starter welshboy
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I was talking about people like you!
I've never heard such scaremongering...
But it's plugged into the car at one end and the wall at the other...presumably at a comfortable height. So if you unplug it from the car, you're already holding it up. Why would you have to bend over to pick it up?
How heavy are these cables exactly? I gather they're thicker than your average domestic extension cord, but surely they are no where near as thick and heavy as the fuel pump and hose at a petrol station. How does your mother manage with those?
"Winch." just lol.
If the roles were reversed and EV was the incumbent technology, with a change to petrol, would people be making similarly nonsensical arguments?
How could you trust a pensioner to pump highly flammable petrol in public? What if they squeeze the trigger without the pump in the car and spray it everywhere? Heck, they might not even be able to pick the pump up with that big heavy hose and they literally have to stand there holding it the entire time! It's an accident waiting to happen!
What about people trying to refine their own petrol at home?
What about people storing tanks of dangerous black market petrol in their shed?
What if fuel tanks corrode and leak dangerous fuels all over the floor?
What happens if people try to smoke near a recently filled up car?
Who wants to be forced to drive to a petrol station to fill up, an area literally built on top of tanks of highly explosive liquid, when they could just plug in a plug at home?
How could you trust a pensioner to pump highly flammable petrol in public? What if they squeeze the trigger without the pump in the car and spray it everywhere? Heck, they might not even be able to pick the pump up with that big heavy hose and they literally have to stand there holding it the entire time! It's an accident waiting to happen!
What about people trying to refine their own petrol at home?
What about people storing tanks of dangerous black market petrol in their shed?
What if fuel tanks corrode and leak dangerous fuels all over the floor?
What happens if people try to smoke near a recently filled up car?
Who wants to be forced to drive to a petrol station to fill up, an area literally built on top of tanks of highly explosive liquid, when they could just plug in a plug at home?
Caporegime
You’ve forgotten the problems with crashing a tank of flammable liquid at high speed with numerous sources of ignition in the vehicle. Every crash will result in literal death for all involved.
Soldato
Jesus H Christ, look at all the idiots.
Still can't work out if trolls gonna troll or if they genuinely believe the **** they spout.
Still can't work out if trolls gonna troll or if they genuinely believe the **** they spout.
Well under 1kg/m IIRC
Caporegime
I'm talking about this part here in yellow and black
Weight when wet, in ice/under snow?
Someone has to carry it out, lay it down so its flat side down, at night, in darkness...
Well that too.
You'd have to be literally insane to want to drive around in a vehicle that is propelled entirely on the basis of causing small explosions less than a metre away from you in the first place, nevermind crashing it!
But the cable is clipped into it. The cable is suspended at comfortable height. So if you can grab hold of the cable, it's just a case of lifting it to pull the ramp up to a height where you can grab that too.
Yeah I guess that it might be a problem on the one day every two years where we get enough snowfall for it to be a problem. But then in that situation, how's your poor old mother going to do slipping and sliding her way to the petrol station anyway?
Yeah I guess that it might be a problem on the one day every two years where we get enough snowfall for it to be a problem. But then in that situation, how's your poor old mother going to do slipping and sliding her way to the petrol station anyway?
Caporegime
Yes but how heavy is it?
I suspect you'll be signing a prison warrant for most over 60 year olds and disabled people trapped unable to use their one mode of freedom, the car.
Soldato
Each cable cover weighs 5kg and I've got 2 linked together. It's solid rubber and plastic so it doesn't get wet (as in, soak up more weight).
Not that I know why I'm even bothering to reply to you...
Caporegime
So thats 14kg plus say 2-5kg of dry cable weight and you expect an elderly person to be doing this twice a day?
The max recommended lift for a single person is 25kg in work health and safety and you're near that with a short run of cable.
Soldato
Who said anyone expects an elderly person to do that? And you think both sections and the cable have to be carried all at once? Just go away.
Soldato
Flat earth, 5G causes Covid, vacations are evil, maybe you can link these to your comment.
Caporegime
So you would have to bend down and pick it up? I was just told you wouldn't..
I for one don't expect my mum to carry 17kg of cables about at night or during the day to charge her car.
Soldato
Can't wait for V2G and V2H to become the norm, and watch all the whiners and whingers then, it's going to be hilarious.
Waa, waa, waa I live in a terraced house and can't get cheap electricity because I can't be bothered to plug in my car, waa, waa, waa.
Waa, waa, waa I live in a terraced house and can't get cheap electricity because I can't be bothered to plug in my car, waa, waa, waa.
To be fair, you were told you wouldn't have to bend down to pick up the cable. Then you said "no, I didn't mean the cable". I mean, it's almost like you're coming up with problems up on the fly to justify your own hyperbole..."Signing a prison warrant for over 60s", Jesus Christ. Really?
Look, I'm not saying there aren't problems with cable management for EVs, but you're tone suggests that you think they are completely insurmountable. Some people are coming up with some pretty good solutions to the problems, yet because there's still some outlier scenarios where you envisage the solutions wont work for some people in particular...what? We should scrap the idea of EVs totally?
And all of your objections assume that charging at home will be the ONLY option in the future. But there's still going to be charging stations, much like there are petrol stations. I assume your mum isn't a prisoner in her own home because she cant fill the car with petrol on her doorstep, is she?
Them rubbers are not heavy at all , i do this when charging my I.C.E car batteryI'm talking about this part here in yellow and black
Weight when wet, in ice/under snow?
Someone has to carry it out, lay it down so its flat side down, at night, in darkness...
Caporegime
To be fair, you were told you wouldn't have to bend down to pick up the cable. Then you said "no, I didn't mean the cable". I mean, it's almost like you're coming up with problems up on the fly to justify your own hyperbole..."Signing a prison warrant for over 60s", Jesus Christ. Really?
Look, I'm not saying there aren't problems with cable management for EVs, but you're tone suggests that you think they are completely insurmountable. Some people are coming up with some pretty good solutions to the problems, yet because there's still some outlier scenarios where you envisage the solutions wont work for some people in particular...what? We should scrap the idea of EVs totally?
I just thing its impractical to ask the population to do this.
I was obviously talking about the whole solution not just the powercable, as the power cable is the lightest component. Seems orevious posts about how inconvenient the tidies would be to prams for example.
I would ask the guy with the 2x heavy cable tidies to find a 60 year old woman and ask her to set it up and put it away again and get some real life feedback on this 'solution'
Caporegime
The real answer is to skip EV cars and go straight to Hydrogen cell cars instead.